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dimnd
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Western USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: Walmart anywhere? |
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| I know Walmart is out of Korea but did they crop up as another name and does anyone know where there is one in Seoul area? |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thank the Lord! WAL-MART is gone! They left Korea b/c they couldn't figure out how to run a business here!
Praise be to God! WAL-MART is gone!!!!!
But no, you can't find one still. Go to E-Mart or Home Plus or any of the other dozen department stores you can find. Wal-Mart blows goats and if you're desparate for one, it says something about you.
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Drew345

Joined: 24 May 2005
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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I went over to the Walmart in Gangnam. Yep, there gone, changed to an E-mart there. The store looked exactly the same, just had a few more dancing girls inside. And man it was packed. Koreans just like that E-mart name and the dancing girls. Such a shame, Even China has huge Walmarts (in Nanjing) with all kinds of international goods, but Korea can't support even one.
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| OH NO there goes the only descent bagels in Korea. Stupid emart now will be making carbage. |
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dimnd
Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Western USA
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: walmart |
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I liked the Mainstay brand you could by for home stuff...closet space stuff, etc..
where is the closest e-mart to Mokdong..does anyone know...I went to Home Ever and I didn't care for the store much..but e-mart is alright... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Drew345 wrote: |
I went over to the Walmart in Gangnam. Yep, there gone, changed to an E-mart there. The store looked exactly the same, just had a few more dancing girls inside. And man it was packed. Koreans just like that E-mart name and the dancing girls. Such a shame, Even China has huge Walmarts (in Nanjing) with all kinds of international goods, but Korea can't support even one.
Drew |
Yeah that was the problem with WalMart in Korea. They just offered exactly what the established Korean chains offered but without all the bells and whistles the ajumas like. They were pure also ran. Their prices weren't any better and they didn't carry any foreign goods. I'm not sorry to see it go. |
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tiger fancini

Joined: 21 Mar 2006 Location: Testicles for Eyes
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Drew345 wrote: |
| I went over to the Walmart in Gangnam. |
I went there, and wasn't impressed. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| Drew345 wrote: |
| I went over to the Walmart in Gangnam. |
I went there, and wasn't impressed. |
Yeah. It was never much good but now that it's E-mart it's even worse. Anything imported has jumped about 25% in price over the old Walmart price. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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I liked Wal-Mart Korea because it was one of the few places where you could buy real American bacon. Their electronics were cheaper than Emart & Home Plus.
When I talk to Koreans about Wal-Mart, some of them are proud that Koreans stopped the goliath Wal-Mart from growing here. I guess Wal-Mart didn't deserve to succeed here because they failed to offer cheaper prices than the competition. |
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SeoulnPepe
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| We still have Costco. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| We still have Costco. |
Thank God.
I hate emart. I don't mind Homeplus but its not like I even go shoping at either. Mega Mart  |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Wrench wrote: |
| SeoulnPepe wrote: |
| We still have Costco. |
Thank God.
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Here, here. And if Costco ever leaves, all of us English teachers will be begging the G.I.s to let us shop on base.
Can you imagine the black market in Namdeamun from that day?
Adjuma: Bacon is 25,000 won
ESL Teacher: Not 8,000 won?
Adjuma: Yesterday, but now 25,000 won. You buy it?
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charlieDD
Joined: 16 Jun 2006 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: |
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WalMart and Carrefour decided within weeks of each other to give up on the Korean market to focus their resources on China. Carrefour also pulled out of Japan. Korea and Japan were considered mature, saturated markets and thus proved too difficult for an outside upstart to get a hold. Walmart is doing well in Japan, though, by buying up established supermarket names, like Seiyu.
In Korea, both tried doing it alone, without a Korean partner, and that seems to be what did them in. That and trying to offer discount prices to people who prefer to pay premium prices and have all the dancing girls and promoting girls, etc. TESCO has done well by partnering up with Samsung and leaving the vast majority of the management to Koreans in Korea, and running their stores Korean style.
Neither WalMart nor Carrefour left Korea licking their wounds: quite the opposite. They were both sitting on prime real estate they bought after the '97 crisis at good prices and were able to sell their stores / land for very significant profits. (I believe Carrefour came out close to $2 billion in hand when they left.) They could have kept slugging it out in Korea, or cashed in their chips and moved on to a richer pot game. They made the logical choice.
They are now battling it out in China and India, developing markets. WalMart is apparently the winner so far in China, with 60+ stores and about to buy a chain of 100+ established stores. Carrefour has something like 40 stores in China. WalMart has just announced they have partnered with an Indian firm and will enter the Indian market within months. Carrefour's going to partner with a Dubai company to enter the Indian market.
While they were open in Korea, it was noted that they were operating on far lower margins than the Korean superstores. I believe I read Carrefour was operating on a 3.6% margin and the average margin for Korean department store/ superstores is over 6%, with, I believe I read, Lotte leading at 8%. (My details might be off; but . . you get the main idea.) The idea is that they were offering lower prices, but . . . |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| charlieDD wrote: |
Neither WalMart nor Carrefour left Korea licking their wounds: quite the opposite. They were both sitting on prime real estate they bought after the '97 crisis at good prices and were able to sell their stores / land for very significant profits. (I believe Carrefour came out close to $2 billion in hand when they left.) They could have kept slugging it out in Korea, or cashed in their chips and moved on to a richer pot game. They made the logical choice. |
A sound business decision. If you're sitting on assets generating 3% profit or you can liquidate it and throw it in bonds paying double, why not?
Starbucks and Krispy Kreme partnered with Shinsagae. Costco partnered with Shinsagae but then Shinsagae screwed them over by opening their Emart chain to compete with their very own Costco partnership. Costco pulled out and then came back wholly owned. They seem to be one of the few that are doing okay (aside from the customary fast food joints). |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| Drew345 wrote: |
Even China has huge Walmarts (in Nanjing) with all kinds of international goods, but Korea can't support even one.
Drew |
I think therein lies the reason they have disappeared. International goods in a store in Korea? No thanks, people might buy that instead of local goods, with a few things being the exception, like alcohol. Don't we all wish the market was more open and sold more int'l stuff? There are a few small places that sell some foreign stuff at expensive prices, but they are scarce. |
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