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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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 Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: Question about another teacher |
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| Hey, my hagwon is employing a girl from a local US base. She has no degree. However, she is white and blonde which makes her qualified by my bosses standards. Anyway, it legal for them to be employing her? She lives on the base as the wife of a guy stationed there. I don't really care that they are doing it but if it is illegal, it'd be nice to know. Ya know, just in case the day comes that I need to leverage the bosses. So far so good with them but, ya never know.... |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know, that's illegal in 2 ways. She can't work off-base without a Korean work VISA. And even if she somehow got one, she can't legally work by MOE regs w/o a BA/BS.
So yeah, she'd be illegal.
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds fishy to me.
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I was pretty sure it was from my limited knowledge. Since some of you guys are like walking encyclopedias of Korean Labor law I thought I would ask to get my facts straight. Is this a fineable offense? I have no inttentions of using this info, I like girl and bosses are ok. I asked them recently about my overtime pay for winter intensives and they have yet to get back to me. However I did get a letter criticizing my teaching skills. It was non threatening and much of the criticism was valid (besides saying my class was boring, my kids cheer me) So, I got my eyes and ears out for business negiotations korean style. |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Immigration will slap the owner with hefty fine if your boss is caught doing it. As for the teacher without degree, they probably won't and can't do anything to her because she's covered under the SOFA agreement. |
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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| ChuckECheese wrote: |
| As for the teacher without degree, they probably won't and can't do anything to her because she's covered under the SOFA agreement. |
A common misperception about the US-Korea SOFA. SOFA does not exempt anyone from being charged with a crime while in Korea. What it does do; provides rules on jurisdiction and pre-trial confinements for service members and their family if arrested and charged with a crime in Korea. |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Richard Krainium wrote: |
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| As for the teacher without degree, they probably won't and can't do anything to her because she's covered under the SOFA agreement. |
A common misperception about the US-Korea SOFA. SOFA does not exempt anyone from being charged with a crime while in Korea. |
Yes, you're right if it's serious crime. But immigration violation isn't that serious and Koreans ain't even going to bother.
I've seen times when drunk solidiers beat up and stab a taxi drivers and run into the base and K-police and law couldn't do anything about it. The soldiers do get some sort of disciplinary action from the military and gets hauled off to the states. |
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I thought the worst thing that would happen to her is being told she has to go back to the states. Sounds like this is perfectly blackmail material though. They can pay me the overtime or get nailed by immigration and go through the hassle of hiring a proper teacher. |
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jmbran11
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: U.S.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| The only thing you're going to do it get this girl fired. If you threaten to call immigration, do you think she'll still be there by the time they show up? If you like her, leave it alone. You're being petty. And jealous, it sounds. |
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:12 am Post subject: |
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| jmbran11 wrote: |
| The only thing you're going to do it get this girl fired. If you threaten to call immigration, do you think she'll still be there by the time they show up? If you like her, leave it alone. You're being petty. And jealous, it sounds. |
I intend too, she's not the issue, its my employers following through with my contract is. I'm in a foreign country and for the most part my boss holds the cards in these little squables. Him hiring someone illegally in front of me is just leverage. Business is Business. Anyways, what am I jealous of? |
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Gamecock
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| I've seen times when drunk solidiers beat up and stab a taxi drivers and run into the base and K-police and law couldn't do anything about it. The soldiers do get some sort of disciplinary action from the military and gets hauled off to the states. |
You've SEEN soldiers stab a taxi driver and get away with it??? You'd think that would have made the news... |
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Fresh Prince
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| shifter2009 wrote: |
| jmbran11 wrote: |
| The only thing you're going to do it get this girl fired. If you threaten to call immigration, do you think she'll still be there by the time they show up? If you like her, leave it alone. You're being petty. And jealous, it sounds. |
I intend too, she's not the issue, its my employers following through with my contract is. I'm in a foreign country and for the most part my boss holds the cards in these little squables. Him hiring someone illegally in front of me is just leverage. Business is Business. Anyways, what am I jealous of? |
Quite honestly it sounds like your another anti-American that is going to take out your frustrations with the American government's policies on an innocent party. You don't know for sure that she is working illegally. She may have been giving special permission by the Korean government, who knows.
I don't think risking the poor girls job is a good plan. Your boss will still hold all the cards and can screw you for any made up reason. There's no sense in ruining the life of someone in the process.
Do you think that a miltary person and who's wife was deported because some random guy had a problem with his boss would not be seriously upset and do a little research on who the guy was?
This is Korea, foreigners get messed with and have no job security. |
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| Nope, I am an American and got no problems with American policy in Korea. Your projecting. |
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Fresh Prince
Joined: 05 Dec 2006
Location: The glorious nation of Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| True, but I'm all for leaving the girl's life alone. Illegal or legal. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| OP- I'd be bothered by it, too, but see how it goes. If she minds her own business and is pleasant, then I'd leave her alone. If she starts crap or is used as leverage over you in some way, then make a call and get her beehind shipped out. |
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