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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: STOP SPAMMING THE BOARD |
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As you may recall, not too long ago we had a dialogue with our friendly neighborhood mods. The issue of self-policing was brought up, and I feel the time is appropos for just that:
Individual posters should limit new topics to one or two per day at the max unless there's some astonishingly exceptional reason to do otherwise.
If at all possible, try to add breaking news/new developments to pre-existing threads that already deal with the same topic rather than starting a new thread every time you see something in the news.
I won't name names, but I will say that I think more than just a single poster is guilty of the above.
Moreover, I'm not a mod nor do I have any authority to tell others what to do. As such, I'd just like to:
a) point out that I think a lot of potentially interesting threads are getting buried by excessive posting of new unnecessary threads and discussion is also being cut short because of topics sinking to page 2 faster than a prom dress.
b) ask anyone who agrees with me to chime in here and make their feelings known.
Lastly, I don't think anyone is spamming for malicious reasons, so I don't mean to offend.
Thank you for listening.
-NM |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: STOP SPAMMING THE BOARD |
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| Nowhere Man wrote: |
| b) ask anyone who agrees with me to chime in here and make their feelings known... |
Agree with you 110%.
But if people are going to spam their politics, op-eds, and pet conspiracy theories with no consequences, then, I say, let the games begin...
Adventurer: you just hit us with about a dozen spam-threads in only a few minutes. Delete them and I will delete the eight or so I just put on the board.
You have something you want to talk about here, then talk about it. But be advised that we can surf the web, too, and we do not need you to feed it to us... |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually, spam away, I say. This site has been quite boring for the past 3-4 weeks (when I stopped making lots o' Islam related topics,,,,). Let the market decide. Post away, girls. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Fine. But if I do it it will be a series of unorthodox current-events stories.
Sick of the droning, all-too-slanted, propaganda campaigns... |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Wow Gopher, you never post propaganda! LOL
It seems both Gopher and Adventurer are out of control. Why does the current events forum always become a propaganda war?
Here's the answers you'll probably hear:
1) It's always been that way
2) He started it first
Also the hate filled Jewish and Muslim bashing posts by a minority of members gets old as well. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Also the hate filled Jewish and Muslim bashing posts by a minority of members gets old as well. |
It's important that these people be out in the open, so we can study them in the hopes of finding a cure.
Are you so heartless?
Anyway... yeah, six threads on the same topic is a bit silly. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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You'll find that just about nobody responds or reads them or just ignores them.
And do we need multiple threads on Obama??  |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
You'll find that just about nobody responds or reads them or just ignores them.
And do we need multiple threads on Obama?? |
Do we need multiple threads on Iraq, Israel, the Holocaust, Jews, Arabs, or JFK? |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
| And do we need multiple threads on Obama?? |
Sure, just because they lost doesn't mean the neocon smear machine has shut down. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Islam is a disease. And, the only topic that anybody ever seems interested in. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
Wow Gopher, you never post propaganda! LOL
It seems both Gopher and Adventurer are out of control. Why does the current events forum always become a propaganda war?
Here's the answers you'll probably hear:
1) It's always been that way
2) He started it first
Also the hate filled Jewish and Muslim bashing posts by a minority of members gets old as well. |
I am not in a propaganda war with anyone. I am interested in political debate (of a tolerant nature whether you are from the right or left).
I have posted articles with titles I agree with and disagree with. Most having to do with issues that interest me. That is normal. I don't necessarily agree with all of the articles I post.
I am looking in some cases to see what others have to say about what someone said. If someone wants to post about Obama, JFK, Iran, or North Korea, it shouldn't matter. Was the objection that there were many threads on a given subject? I mean, for example, Iraq may interest many and some may be interested in Obama or Bill Gates. Sometimes the board has seemed kind of boring and dead. I am not against people voluntarily reducing their posts to three. I was not competing with Gopher, and I am not assuming he was with me. I wasn't really paying attention to that. I was saying what people were debating. It is as simple as that for me. It is a board that teachers in Korea are participating in.
I did delete several posts for good measure.... How do you want to see this board? How do you want to enliven it? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| ...I did delete several posts for good measure.... How do you want to see this board? How do you want to enliven it? |
And I followed suit. Also, I do not think it necessary to agree to three new threads per poster per day, as most of us do not even create that many threads in a typical week. That is why, I am sure, at least on this one issue, Nowhere Man and I share the same frustration. I saw him go after the religious posters' spamming and polls a while back. I agreed with him in principal. But reasoning with those guys, getting them to put down their Bibles for even a moment, is a losing battle.
You had put something like a dozen new threads onto the board in the space of less than twenty minutes tonight. And it looked a lot to me as if you were searching for a certain kind of story, whose reporting was slanted a certain way, too. You deny that. But that remains the pattern that I saw.
Little different in my eyes than multiple haranguing, droning, excessively-long threads -- multiple threads -- on the more-than-thirty-year-old conspiracy-theories on JFK. or the Holocaust as a lie. or any number of the usual threads produced by the usual suspects, including RTeacher and his literally monotonous Krishna mantra.
In any case, you ask about enlivening this board. I would like to see more diversity.
For example, there is more going on in the Middle East than the Great Satan's evil doings, Israel's oppressing the innocent, harmless Arabs, or the Islamofascists' quest to force the rest of the world to submit to Sharia Law....
See this thread, for example.
And so many have so deeply internalized the neverending quest to find new and improved ways to criticize or make a case against America or Americans, present this negative information or that negative information, and then, inevitably, put both hands up and say, "who me...? I'm just talking about the news..."
Bull.
There is a lot of news out there, treating a lot of topics from volcanic debris that yields new insights into global warming to a newly-discovered set of black holes that exist where they should not exist.
Moreover, there is a lot of good and exciting positive news coming out of the United States. Does it really make people so uncomfortable to talk about information slanted towards the positive every once-in-a-while?
And why must we constantly hear about people's criticisms of the Iraqi War? Do people believe that most people who are not deaf, dumb, and blind -- and even most of them, I wager -- know very well what nearly every one else in the world thinks, one way or another, on this issue. Why keep repeating it again and again -- and again and again and again?
It is more than three years old. I think that all but a small handful of people here openly acknowledge this war as a mistake or worse. Yet we are still kicking that dead horse, over and over again.
Moreover, the Democratic legislature coupled with a new SecDef, are changing the situation, methodically and intelligently. Why do people not see this? Why continue bitterly -- or, in your case, more subtly -- denouncing the situation again and again because it is not unfolding the way that they want it to unfold?
But my real objection to this Iraqi broken record is this: do you truly believe that the record will sound different on the 10,001st time from the 10,000th time? Are you expecting people to voice a new opinion on the matter? Do you think that either Joo or Octavius are going to say something unexpected about something you find and post, for instance? Do you think that R.S. Refugee's enforced, steady diet of Counterpunch articles look different on this board that they would if, those of us who were interested, just went to Counterpunch's website ourselves when we wished to read it?
However this may be, you ask about getting this place going, enlivening the discussion. How about looking for new news topics and analysis and talking about that for a change?
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Gopher, actually limiting posts may be a good idea to some extent. That is if others contribute more.
As far as stories, let us take JFK. It is 30 years old. However, if a poster likes it, and I don't so what? He posted it because he liked that topic.
When it comes to the holocaust revisionism, this is not France or Germany. They won't go to the slammer for their views. It is a view I don't agree with, but as long as they are not anti-Semitic in an overt way, then no problem.
When it comes to Iraq, the war is not over. People will talk about it.
It is not about whether it was a mistake or not. A war is still on.
People will talk about it. Plenty posted about Saddam Hussein as you noticed. It interests people.
As far as good news about the Great Satans regarding the Near East found in Beirut, Washington D.C., Baghdad, a Great Satan is in the eye of the beholder in politics. Everyone is a critic. There aren't many stories coming out of the Middle East about stories such as the Ibis, Canaanite history, the tombs in Egypt, or the artistic scene in Beirut. They are interesting.
Some of the posts, as you said, have a slant. However, you assume many times I agree with a certain post or it has a slant. I will give two examples. A post having to do with Olmert and Livni. What slant is there in that post? Is wanting to know what people think about the polls a slant?
Maybe. When I posted about some Israelis saying they regret Saddam was removed, did it mean I agreed with it? No. I don't miss Saddam.
I think his getting deposed in some fashion that made sense may have been positive, but not the way it was done. Do some of my posts have a slant. Of course, some do and so do the posts of everyone here. That is human nature on your part and my part.
The U.S. has a government, Iran has a government. There is a difference between criticizing the actions of any government and the people. You placed the people as if the government and the people are the same. Most people didn't vote in the U.S. for example. Most people, collectively, didn't vote for Stephen Harper collectively if you add those voting for the Liberals, NDP, and Bloc Quebecois. Tony Blair is not England. When you make it an ethnic issue, it is almost like people who play the race card, in my book, and the race card silences debate on affirmative action.
You have some good posts. Anyone, I am not trying to make assumptions about anyone on this forum, and I think we should encourage civility.
Cheers...
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:50 am Post subject: ... |
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What topics get posted is a separate issue.
Just please don't spam the board.
I think the board liveliness corresponds to liveliness in the general media. Winter recess is just coming to a finish.
If you're bored, go to Off-topic and share your favorite concert experience. Compare Phish to the Grateful Dead. Flag posts that should be over here in CE (some people fear this forum). That's what I do.
Happy New Year. |
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