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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Heavy drinking is killing Koreans Reply with quote

What's Killing Koreans in their 40s?

What is the top killer of Koreans in their 40s? According to statistics announced last year by the National Statistical Office, in the year 2005 cancer was the No. 1 cause of death for 40-somethings, killing 68.4 out of 100,000 people. Next on the list are suicide (28.3), liver disease (26.2), cerebrovascular disease, or stroke (17), traffic accidents (16.5), heart disease (15.5) and diabetes (8.2).
In the cancer category, liver cancer leads the list with 18.9 sufferers out of 100,000. Next are stomach cancer (11.9), lung cancer (7.2), intestinal cancer (5.3), breast cancer (5.3), uterine cancer (3.6), ovarian cancer (2.7) and pancreatic cancer (2.4). Mortality rates for liver disease and cancer are high, killing 45.1 patients out of 100,000. Experts believe the risks of a liver-related death are made greater through excessive alcohol consumption. The heavy responsibilities at work and at home that those in their 40s shoulder may explain why suicide is the second most common cause of death. A tendency to discount the seriousness of depression also plays a factor in boosting the suicide rate, with around 70 to 80% of suicides triggered by depression.

Cerebrovascular disease (including strokes and cerebral artery disease), an affliction normally associated with the elderly, ranked fourth, largely because of the rapid growth in the number of Koreans suffering from obesity, high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Smoking and habitual drinking plays a part, too. Heart disease comes in at number six for similar reasons. It is noteworthy that diabetes has emerged one of the main causes of death among those in their 40s, killing 8.2 out of 100,000. In recent years the average age of diabetes victims has dropped. The disease often leads to complications in various parts of the body, including the kidneys, retinas and nervous system, 10 to 20 years after its onset, causing many patients to die.

Meanwhile, the mortality rate for males in their 40s was 2.7 times higher than that of females, at 343.8 and 128.7 out of 100,000 respectively.
The chance of dying from liver disease was 7.5 times higher for men than it was for women, and for liver cancer it was 5.9 times higher. As for the mortality rates of heart disease, diabetes and cerebrovascular disease, male patients also recorded higher figures than females, 4.2 times, 3.9 times and 2.3 times respectively. The suicide rate was 2.7 times higher among men than women. These figures show the vulnerability of Koreans in their 40s, who play the most critical roles at home and in the office, to various diseases.



So will this serve as a long overdue wakeup call? Or will drinking-till-you-puke-and-then-drink-some-more continue to be seen as a sign of "masculinity" and "strength"?
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in Canada, it was very rare for someone to pass away in their 40s, but it seems to be more common here (I've had friends and co-workers who had fathers shuffle off this mortal coil in their 40s.). Just out of curiousity, does anyone know of any comparitive statistics?
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Heavy drinking is killing Koreans Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
liver disease (26.2), cerebrovascular disease, or stroke (17), traffic accidents (16.5), heart disease (15.5)

Between two or three Koreans per 10,000 in that age range will die of liver disease. This is significant scientifically but not even worth worrying about on the personal level.

What's remarkable is the lower level of cadiovascular-related deaths in Korea like stroke and heart disease. 80 million Americans have cardiovascular disease, a stat not surprising when you look at the obesity levels. And 36% of all deaths in America is due to cardiovascular causes, that works out to 2400 people every day, one every 36 seconds. Plenty more than cancer, accidents, diabetes and respiratory causes COMBINED!! (see evidence in official stat link below)

http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=3000090

Us Canadians aren't so far removed from Americans. Over 13 people per 10,000 will die of diseases of the heart. Shocked Makes the Korean rates of 2 or 3 people dying of liver disease, and even less from heart-related causes, seem minor in comparison.

Troll Bait wrote:
Back in Canada, it was very rare for someone to pass away in their 40s, but it seems to be more common here

Troll Bait, "seems" is the operative word here. I don't even share your personal impression as I know seven people personally back in Canada who have had heart attacks in their 40s, in fact, we learned in school that mid-forties is a risk period for attacks for men, then rates dip until the mid-fifties for some undetermined reason. (couldn't find a link for this piece of info, but i only spent a couple of minutes on it. others can if they'd like)

troll Bait wrote:
So will this serve as a long overdue wakeup call? Or will drinking-till-you-puke-and-then-drink-some-more continue to be seen as a sign of "masculinity" and "strength"?

Don't drink so much if you don't want to. But refrain from judging them. Unless obesity and inactivity isn't in your Canadian family, contrary to the average. 39% of Americans (Canadians can't be much off that) between ages 40-59 have cardiovascular disease (see link above).

Koreans are healthier than Canadians and Americans if you look at mortality rates per capita. The cold hard fact of the matter is: Incidence of liver-related deaths here are a fraction of heart-related deaths back home.

That's my two cents. G'day.
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cj1976



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compared to back home in England, drink-related problems are pretty tame here. The UK is offically Europe's no 1 alcoholic hotspot, which is good for us, because it means we have something over the Germans!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

troll bait....you raise an interesting point. However as Van said...look around...and consider the statistical relevance of what you posted.

As Van said: Koreans are healthier than Canadians and Americans if you look at mortality rates per capita. The cold hard fact of the matter is: Incidence of liver-related deaths here are a fraction of heart-related deaths back home.

This is in general health terms and it just might change in the near future if habits change here for example.

Cheers
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Dev



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
Compared to back home in England, drink-related problems are pretty tame here. The UK is offically Europe's no 1 alcoholic hotspot, which is good for us, because it means we have something over the Germans!


Worse than Russia? The age expectancy there is 59 in part thanks to their drinking.
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DaeguKid



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think that what they consume has alot to do with these early deaths. Soju is a deadly cheap drink, and if consumed everyday, death coming early is very inevitable. My old landlord was told by his doctor that he had a hole is in his stomach from drinking soju everyday for the past 30 years of his life...nice guy, poor fella.
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Old fat expat



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Incidence of liver-related deaths here are a fraction of heart-related deaths back home.

Apples vs. oranges

Your reasoning is based on a principle known as tu quoque. You can hear it all the time on the playground at elementary schools (if I'm one, what are you?). It is a tactic used to avoid the issue. What are you avoiding?

What ever is occuring in the USA is irrelevant to what the OP stated.

As for health stats.-longevity is what you should be looking at. Didn't it occur to you guys we all die of something sometime? Da. I agree that the West has problems with obesity, but mortality from this problem is yet to occur (but wait another decade).

So, do Koreans have a drinking problem? The stats suggest they do.
Does the West have an eating problem? The stats suggest they do.

Why does the occurance of one cancel out the other?
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manlyboy



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avian flu. Lung cancer. Traffic accident. Suicide. Nuclear war. Hymen re-attachment mishap. Of all the ways to kick the bucket in the ROK, I would choose alcoholism, thankyou very much.
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cdninkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

manlyboy wrote:
Avian flu. Lung cancer. Traffic accident. Suicide. Nuclear war. Hymen re-attachment mishap. Of all the ways to kick the bucket in the ROK, I would choose alcoholism, thankyou very much.


(see boldface)

Do people really die from that surgery? Do you have a source?
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that hepatitis is one of the worst diseases in Korea, which targets the liver, but I've met too many nonagenarian Koreans to totally write the culture off as killing people early.
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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how much alcohol is safe to consume. I wonder how much damage you are doing to your liver by having a couple of bottles of soju per week....

My boss takes these special liver vitamins or something. Supposedly they increase liver function. I doubt they are very helpful, but who knows...
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psychedelic



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Heavy drinking by South Koreans Reply with quote

So,so what? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Apples vs. oranges


Actually it is more Apples vs. Apples.

Van was comparing health issues in different countries to give a basis of comparison...hence apples vs apples. Van also raised the real impact of the stats posted by troll bait. This makes for a very interesting discussion.

When you consider health issues, every country has its dominant causes of death or of terminal disease. What remains to be compared are the stats. If you take Canada for example, there is far more cardiovascular disease there than in say Japan or Korea. Different types of cancers also take center stage in these countries. Also take a peek at life expectancy in these countries for an idea of general health. As it stands now your avg Joe in Canada has a life expectancy of about 80 years (nationmaster) and your avg Korean about 77 years (nationmaster). Then factor in overall wealth and access to health services and this pretty much leaves both countries on par with each other.
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