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SLP School Ilsan?

 
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jigga723



Joined: 27 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: SLP School Ilsan? Reply with quote

anybody know anything about SLP School in Ilsan?
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PaperTiger



Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people say that working for SLP is just fine, but many have said the majority of them are run by thugs and con artists. Check the blacklists and the graylists...it's a name that comes up often. For my own part I would just suggest that you visit the school and see how many red flags go up after learning how to look for them by reading posts on this board. Pay special attention to their books and "teaching" materials...they seems pretty consistent throughout the chain...providing scant, poor quality material for classes that often stretch into the 80-minute range leaving most moderately experienced teachers constantly scrambling for "supplementary materials". You might end up working for decent people, but their approach to buying books is always the same...they get the cheapest ones possible (read: thin and written by semi-literate morons that slept through their English classes...Joanne Lee (author of their grammar book), honorable mention for being especially incompetent).

Slave Labor Program is a favorite nickname of this chain...I think you'll find that most of the large chains pay the least and expect more work than they're willing to pay for (moreso than your typical boss).

Check it out...it should be good practice anyway.
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mumblebee



Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Location: Andong

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for an SLP. The kindy curriculum is not bad, there are teachers guides etc. The elementary-aged materials do require a lot of prep to round them out; however the mid-levels are being replaced with an expanded book set in March.

The core curriculum is pretty open-ended, so you can be quite creative with it, if you are prepared to make the effort. Also, many SLPs have developed a lot of in-house material to supplement the core curriculum. Ask a current teacher via e-mail about their teaching workload, and what supplementary materials are available at the school.

Check the conditions at the school via personal e-mail with current/former teachers. You do work hard at these schools; we certainly work our butts off at our school...but, at my branch, the overall conditions are great, so no one seems to mind too terribly much...Work Hard, Play Hard.
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:05 am    Post subject: Re: SLP School Ilsan? Reply with quote

jigga723 wrote:
anybody know anything about SLP School in Ilsan?


jigga,

I work at (S)lave (L)abor (P)rogram, and I would be happy to assist you in any way I can. P.M. if you have any questions. Say hello to Duncan and John Shim for me.

alabamaman
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: SLP School Ilsan? Reply with quote

jigga723 wrote:
anybody know anything about SLP School in Ilsan?


Be very, very careful about the working conditions and required contracted hours of work.

With most SLPs you will be contracted for 22 or 23 classes of 80 minutes per week (for the same money as a public teacher teaching 22 classes of 40 minutes duration).

22 classes of 80 minutes works out to 1680 minutes in front of the students every week.

Most haggies have you work 1500 contact minutes per week (30x50 minute classes) and you get the same money.

This means you will be working 3 hours of contact time (plus related pre time) more per week for NO MORE MONEY than the next hakwon monkey.

Slave Labor Program and it still lives up to it's name.
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PaperTiger



Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mumblebee wrote:
I work for an SLP. The kindy curriculum is not bad, there are teachers guides etc. The elementary-aged materials do require a lot of prep to round them out; however the mid-levels are being replaced with an expanded book set in March.

The core curriculum is pretty open-ended, so you can be quite creative with it, if you are prepared to make the effort. Also, many SLPs have developed a lot of in-house material to supplement the core curriculum. Ask a current teacher via e-mail about their teaching workload, and what supplementary materials are available at the school.

Check the conditions at the school via personal e-mail with current/former teachers. You do work hard at these schools; we certainly work our butts off at our school...but, at my branch, the overall conditions are great, so no one seems to mind too terribly much...Work Hard, Play Hard.


Wowee, that IS an optimistic, appraisal noobie. I guess all those bigass SLP paychecks really make all that sincerity and derring-do worthwhile. I really hope things there are better than they were at the Godeok SLP and it's sister school run by the same owners. I remember how I was told that I might need to do some research on the internet or in their "library of teaching resources" in order to provide "occasional supplementary material" for my classes. They showed me a room filled with about 10 PC's where all of the supplementation and research was supposed to take place...I later found that ALL of them were broken and there was only ONE computer in the lobby and another one so that that secretary could buy makeup online. The teaching materials meant to supplement our laughably thin textbooks were either inappropriate for the levels we were teaching or at the very least provided a foundation for which additional research was required to supply actual activities and worksheets.

I wish I could say that only SLP is riddled with more caveats than a Mormon pyramid scheme, but I think it's pretty fair to say you should always ask HOW MUCH supplementation will be required and that you would like to see both the textbooks and the materials meant to supplement them.
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wisernow



Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Sogang Language Program:SLP Reply with quote

Nearly all SLP are franchise and not affliated with Sogang University as many SLP likes to mention. Depending on the SLP they could have a lot of kinder classes. As with any jobs always research each specific school as some SLPs can be good and some very bad from what I heard.

You should also reserach Ilsan as Ilsan is a nice suburb like city just north of Seoul and if you are looking for this type of area you will enjoy working in Ilsan as it really is a nice city connected to Seoul by Subway.
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