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tflynn
Joined: 08 Jan 2007
Location: USA
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 Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: Why so much emphasis on teacher photos? |
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Mostly, I'm just curious about this -- do they turn people away based on race, hair color, etc.?
I'm guessing they want clean cut, professional looking people, which is really no different than most teaching/office jobs, so I have no problem with the photo requirements.
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| They want to see and judge if the kids will like the teacher or not by look. |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Why so much emphasis on teacher photos? |
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| tflynn wrote: |
Mostly, I'm just curious about this -- do they turn people away based on race, hair color, etc.?
Yes, yes, yes, etc.
I'm guessing they want clean cut, professional looking people, which is really no different than most teaching/office jobs, so I have no problem with the photo requirements.
If you make yourself look good on your picture, you'll have better chance of landing a job and negotiating the better terms & salary.
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So spend a few extra bucks to get your portrait touched up or have it morphed (your picture and your favorite movie star). |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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they want to make sure the teacher isn't black....
<sigh....> |
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Axl Rose
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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considering some applicants might look like this is it any wonder?  |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| khyber wrote: |
they want to make sure the teacher isn't black....
<sigh....> |
...or too ethnic looking.
Young,fair-featured,"kind"...get the go ahead.
A little older,fatter...more difficult to place.
In terms of accent,1,North american 2,UK 3,Aussie/NZ 4,South Africa is not considered a Native-speaking country by most schools.
Ideal applicant-bright,young NA B.Ed holder(preferably hugging a Korean child in the photo).They can ask for at least up to 2.8 and get it. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Photos help screen out applicants who look too black, Korean, old, young, stupid or ugly ... |
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Matt_22
Joined: 22 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I've been told by some recruiters and fellow teachers that the picture matters more than the resume. It's crazy. |
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tflynn
Joined: 08 Jan 2007
Location: USA
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, that is crazy. I know bias exists everywhere, I just didn't think it would be quite that bad.
So, if I have brown hair/eyes, they might not hire me? Ouch.
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Kiwi Tart
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| tflynn wrote: |
Wow, that is crazy. I know bias exists everywhere, I just didn't think it would be quite that bad.
So, if I have brown hair/eyes, they might not hire me? Ouch.
-T |
Brown hair and eyes are OK.
Brown skin is NOT OK.
-_-;;;
It's annoying because I have a freind at home who would be a faulous teacher, and I know that my school won't hire him.
I asked my boss about hiring him, and she said "I don't think the parents will like that."
Suuuuuuure. Blame the parents, bitch.
I felt disgusted. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| All of the above is true, but there is also another factor. Koreans 'read' faces. LG is reported to have a professional face reader on staff whose job is to read the faces of applicants. |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| All of the above is true, but there is also another factor. Koreans 'read' faces. LG is reported to have a professional face reader on staff whose job is to read the faces of applicants. |
You mean like the fortune teller?  |
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polonius
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:30 am Post subject: Picture |
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I have all the interviews for my hagwon, and while many of the aforementioned comments are true, I like to see who I am speaking to. I have had interviews with many people of various backgrounds. If I were interviewing someone in North America, I would like to have the interview face to face, but I am not given that choice. If the person is in Korea, I will have the interview face to face.
A photo does tell many things. I had a guy send me a photo of him drinking at a bar, one where he was half hiding behind a tree, one taken from 30 feet away and he was wearing sunglasses, others looked like they were taken in the seventies... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| You mean like the fortune teller? |
Yes. A WHOLE lot like a fortune teller.
I've told this story before. I once had a student named Dr. Kim (what else?) who was slated to go abroad for post-grad work. His mom was pressuring him to get married so he wouldn't come home with a foreign bride. So he found a girl he liked and took her home.
Mom met them at the door, took one look at the girl and told her to wait right there and marched Dr. Kim into another room. She said, "Sonny, I don't like her face. Get rid of her."
He did. Mom arranged a meeting through a match-maker and Dr. Kim was married within two months. The family bloodline was saved.
Another student told me that 'you are responsible for your face'. Interesting concept.
A spooky side thing about reading faces: Many Koreans are eerily sensitive to subtle body language. Some of them can detect your lousy mood, no matter how well you think you are hiding it. I've been called on it many times. It's cool in a way, but kinda spooky at the same time. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| A spooky side thing about reading faces: Many Koreans are eerily sensitive to subtle body language. Some of them can detect your lousy mood, no matter how well you think you are hiding it. I've been called on it many times. It's cool in a way, but kinda spooky at the same time. |
It's true. Don't even try to hide how you feel. They know. Seein's how I'm usually feeling pleasant (you wouldn't tell it by my crappy online personality), most Koreans see to like me and help me out. When I'm bummed or angry, no amount of smiling will hide it. |
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