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lolacatessan



Joined: 05 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: teaching young kids vs. adults??? Reply with quote

what are the differences between teaching young kids and teaching adults?
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Constant screaming versus constant perplexion.
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la belle fille



Joined: 06 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Constant screaming versus constant perplexion.


Thanks! but I'm looking for a little more detail Wink

Is it less stressful to teach adults? Do you have less classes? Do you have to wear more formal attire (dress pants and shirts)?

I know with kids you could teach anywhere from 9am-9pm. Are the hours different with adults?

I also know that with kids you play a lot of games but what do you do with adults? Is it just workbook stuff or discussion groups?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: teaching young kids vs. adults??? Reply with quote

lolacatessin wrote:
what are the differences between teaching young kids and teaching adults?


What is the difference between apples and oranges?

Adults tend to be more cerebral. Kids tend to be more physical.

They both / each take a different kind of teacher.

I have done the whole range (from several years in uni's down to several years in kindy's) and for me it was little kids all the way.

For others it is exactly the opposite.

Try one, then the other and see what fits you best. It is not a one size fits all kind of thing.
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lolacatessan



Joined: 05 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Constant screaming versus constant perplexion.


Sorry I accidentally posted this with my other name:

Thanks! but I'm looking for a little more detail ;o)

Is it less stressful to teach adults? Do you have less classes? Do you have to wear more formal attire (dress pants and shirts)?

I know with kids you could teach anywhere from 9am-9pm. Are the hours different with adults?

I also know that with kids you play a lot of games but what do you do with adults? Is it just workbook stuff or discussion groups?
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shetan



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it really depends on your work situation.

I worked in both a Kindy and a Uni... Kindy is usually tidy, casual... but in my Uni I wear the same clothes... nice jeans and a shirt... some days tshirt and ripped jeans!!

Although... all the other teachers opt for suits... It really depends where your working and if you plan to progress there...

I find its mixed...kids material is easier... but explaing grammar rules is harder with their lack of English.. Uni and adults often know all the grammar they need.. so dont ask so many questions... but.. if they do, its usually speaking related.

Kids are often more fun and lighthearted but it can be harder keeping them entertained... where adults more quiet and serious and usually more self motivated....... often just discussion groups and workbook..

So it depends on you.. if you like having fun and playing around... kids are great... if you want to be able to have a discussion and possibly build friendships.. adults may be the way to go...

hope my rambling was of some help!
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lolacatessan



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shetan wrote:


hope my rambling was of some help!


Yes it was...I'm still a little unsure about whether I want to teach kids or adults though - I like the pros of each and the cons don't sound too bad. I have more experience teaching kids but I taught a couple conversation classes to the KTs when I was in Korea last and it was fun - of course they already knew a lot of English. Do the adults usually already know a lot and you're just working on pronunciation and vocabulary building?

I think that if we go to Korea, when I return I'll want to teach Elementary so maybe I should go ahead and teach kids in Korea too.
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bnrockin



Joined: 27 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allow me to keep you from getting your hopes up right now as I wish someone had done for me earlier:

With Adults, unless you are working in a uni, you will more than likely be working split shifts- usually something like 6-10 in the morning and then another 6-10 or 11 at night.

Adults are fun in that they have more experiences to talk about and you can expect them to have a better vocabulary (not always though: it's common to meet couples who's kid speaks better English than they do!).

I'm not giving up on adults yet though. I'm hoping to find some sort of Hagwon in Shin Chon that is for college students or something. It might just be wishful thinking and it might not even exist. If not, then I'll just teach the kids. I've determined it's better to have a life (i.e.-no split shifts) and getting your 2nd or third choice in teaching than teaching those who you prefer but feeling dead and not getting to have fun in Korea.

Just my 2 cents.
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lolacatessan



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanks! I don't think I would enjoy split-shifts either Sad We'll most likely teach kids if we go.
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, working with adults was A DREAM compared to working with kids.

They don't missbehave.

They are paying to be there, so MOST try their best to be polite and study / do homeworkk etc.

I made friends with a lot of my adult students and often went out for beers and food and small trips with them.

The only downside imo is the split shifts.

If you use the break in between to sleep or do something constructive, it's not too bad and you can get used to it.

Bear in mind when I did it I was a young single guy who shared an apt with a friend so got drunk every night after work anyway so it was kinda fun and lived mostly for the weekends anyhow... I'd take adult split shifts any day of the week over ever again teaching rude, idiotic brats who you're not able or allowed to discipline at a hakwan. Never again. Never.
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lolacatessan



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

venus wrote:
I'd take adult split shifts any day of the week over ever again teaching rude, idiotic brats who you're not able or allowed to discipline at a hakwan. Never again. Never.


I see lol Well I don't think we'll ever work at a hagwon again anyway. Looks like we're going to try for a public school so it won't all be about money and we won't have to tip-toe around what the parents want and don't want (or at least not as much).

Plus, like I said, I'm thinking of teaching elementary school when I get back anyway so I think I want to stick with teaching kids in Korea.

Although, I wouldn't mind teaching both. I think someone on here said they taught at a kindy a few days a week and a uni a few days a week so he had experience with kids and adults.
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lolacatessin wrote:
venus wrote:
I'd take adult split shifts any day of the week over ever again teaching rude, idiotic brats who you're not able or allowed to discipline at a hakwan. Never again. Never.


I see lol Well I don't think we'll ever work at a hagwon again anyway. Looks like we're going to try for a public school so it won't all be about money and we won't have to tip-toe around what the parents want and don't want (or at least not as much).

Plus, like I said, I'm thinking of teaching elementary school when I get back anyway so I think I want to stick with teaching kids in Korea.

Although, I wouldn't mind teaching both. I think someone on here said they taught at a kindy a few days a week and a uni a few days a week so he had experience with kids and adults.


I'd take teaching kids at a public school over teaching adults at a hakwan.

I've tried it all and it's the best all round.

Big classes, but less time at school and less teaching time too. Plus you're not at the whims of an arrogant, clueless businessman either... better vacations... treated like a human by at least 70% of the students...
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kids = satan

adults easy and fun.
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lolacatessan



Joined: 05 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
kids = satan

adults easy and fun.


well I guess it really depends on the person - some people just really don't like kids lol but since I'm thinking of making it a long-term career I think I should get more experience teaching kids.
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lolacatessan



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

venus wrote:

I'd take teaching kids at a public school over teaching adults at a hakwan.

I've tried it all and it's the best all round.


I thought you said "teaching adults is a DREAM compared to teaching kids" lol

How long have you been in Korea? My husband and I think it would be great if things worked out well enough that we could go for 2 years. It'd be a great experience and we'd be able to save a lot of money.
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