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ghost

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Many congenial places
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: Korean Universities- How do you get in? Please! |
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Folks
Does anyone work at a Public University in Korea, and where do you get the information to apply to the Univ. system?
Thank you for any information on offer.
Ghost (B.A., B.Ed., M.A., T.E.S.L.)
Looking for Uni. position, 3.000.000, (3 months leave per annum)
Ghost - Member Ontario College of Teachers
Permis du Quebec (Quebec teaching license/permit)
Certified teacher in E.S.L. and F.S.L. (English & French teacher)
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Alternately, try and see if they want to hire anyone part time and try to get in full time for the next semester. |
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spyro25
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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i just applied to all the ones on daves. got lucky with one, interview with another on monday. interview was really easy, they hardly asked me any questions. i think its more of a case they just look at your face, give you a smell, then say 'thats him - he's got the job'
just apply everywhere you can. in the end one will surely take you. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Universities- How do you get in? Please! |
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If you are here it is pretty easy. Networking is what it's all about.
If you are not here, then good luck. Apply for everything and hope something pops up. Most won't foot the bill for your airfare to get here and they will want in in-person interview.
Good luck
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Folks
Does anyone work at a Public University in Korea, and where do you get the information to apply to the Univ. system?
Thank you for any information on offer.
Ghost (B.A., B.Ed., M.A., T.E.S.L.)
Looking for Uni. position, 3.000.000, (3 months leave per annum)
Ghost - Member Ontario College of Teachers
Permis du Quebec (Quebec teaching license/permit)
Certified teacher in E.S.L. and F.S.L. (English & French teacher)
McGill Second Lang. Educ. Graduate |
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TECO

Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Universities- How do you get in? Please! |
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Folks
Does anyone work at a Public University in Korea, and where do you get the information to apply to the Univ. system?
Thank you for any information on offer.
Ghost (B.A., B.Ed., M.A., T.E.S.L.)
Looking for Uni. position, 3.000.000, (3 months leave per annum)
Ghost - Member Ontario College of Teachers
Permis du Quebec (Quebec teaching license/permit)
Certified teacher in E.S.L. and F.S.L. (English & French teacher)
McGill Second Lang. Educ. Graduate |
Ghost,
You're definitely more qualified than most.
Have you thought about teaching in a university in Taiwan? Comparable wages, 10 - 12 hours of classroom time per week, and you get the full 5 months vacation every year. |
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ghost

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Many congenial places
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: reply |
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| Have you thought about teaching in a university in Taiwan? Comparable wages, 10 - 12 hours of classroom time per week, and you get the full 5 months vacation every year. |
Ghost was in Taiwan last year, and applied to the Universities, including Providence University, Taichung, Taiwan - was told by the University that they have so many applicants now, that they can choose Ph.D's (people with doctorates), which ghost does not have.
It seems that a Ph.D. is not a pre-requisite to a Uni. position in Korea.
ghost |
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JeJuJitsu

Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Location: McDonald's
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: reply |
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| Have you thought about teaching in a university in Taiwan? Comparable wages, 10 - 12 hours of classroom time per week, and you get the full 5 months vacation every year. |
Ghost was in Taiwan last year, and applied to the Universities, including Providence University, Taichung, Taiwan - was told by the University that they have so many applicants now, that they can choose Ph.D's (people with doctorates), which ghost does not have.
It seems that a Ph.D. is not a pre-requisite to a Uni. position in Korea.
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No it is not. They do however discriminate against people who refer to themselves in the third person. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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As you have certification, I'd suggest teaching in the Hong Kong NET program, if you can get in. You'd be teaching secondary school, but you'd be making twice the coin you'd make in Korea (or Taiwan), and get to live in Hong Kong to boot. Just a thought.
As for the jobs in Korea, you are indeed well qualified. The downside is that you are looking for 3 million/month right off the bat coming from outside of Korea. The long and short of it is that there are pleanty of people with equal or better qualifications (e.g., that have their MA AND their CELTA, DELTA, and other certificates, plus experience at Korean universities), and there aren't too many places that offer 3 million a month. The competition for those jobs is tight. You might have to take a 'Level II' job (see my thread on University Employment Conditions Rating System), and then jockey for a better job after a year or so in country.
Good luck. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: Re: Korean Universities- How do you get in? Please! |
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Folks
Does anyone work at a Public University in Korea, and where do you get the information to apply to the Univ. system?
Thank you for any information on offer.
Ghost (B.A., B.Ed., M.A., T.E.S.L.)
Looking for Uni. position, 3.000.000, (3 months leave per annum)
Ghost - Member Ontario College of Teachers
Permis du Quebec (Quebec teaching license/permit)
Certified teacher in E.S.L. and F.S.L. (English & French teacher)
McGill Second Lang. Educ. Graduate |
Just look in the job boards. You can also check out english spectrum, and a few other sites.
3 million won is a bit too much. I'd lower those expectations down a bit.. many people (although illegally) quickly supplement their income with parttime jobs. Or they make up the difference with a winter or summer camp for a few weeks a year. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| 3 million is NOT a 'bit much'. It is what someone with your qualifications and experience SHOULD be earning here. However, there are only a handful of universities paying that much for an equitable number of contact hours. Don't listen to the aplogists who view overtime and supplementing their income as justification for crap pay with some vacation. If you are qualified, you should be compensated adaquately. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| 3 million is NOT a 'bit much'. It is what someone with your qualifications and experience SHOULD be earning here. However, there are only a handful of universities paying that much for an equitable number of contact hours. Don't listen to the aplogists who view overtime and supplementing their income as justification for crap pay with some vacation. If you are qualified, you should be compensated adaquately. |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:51 am Post subject: |
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| I got mine because a sweet Korean friend phoned up colleges in the area I wanted to work, and found a place who was having trouble recruiting. They were actually excited to hear from us. |
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HapKi

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: |
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There are A LOT of mid tier and smaller universities and colleges in Seoul (and Korea), but mostly what you read about are Yonsei, Korea, Sogang, and some of the other "top notch" universities. In my experience, lesser known smaller schools offer as good, and often better working situations than the famous ones. Less turn-over, better communication with co-workers and bosses, less advertising (actually no advertising as jobs are filled word of mouth from current employees), less complaining on Daves. Basically, many schools fly under the radar because everyone's happy.
I recommend getting into a school like this however you can. Start by doing a winter camp, or part-time classes, and go from there. Now is a great time to find university or college sponsored winter camps. In smaller schools, you have a greater chance of being recognized as a quality teacher, and signed on for the spring semester. |
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ghost

Joined: 06 Dec 2006 Location: Many congenial places
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: thanks |
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Folks:
Thanks for the insight.
As ghost is now in line for a teacher trainer position in Korea (about 2.5 million per month/40hour week, desk job with some teaching) it looks like it will go for that job (if accepted) - the Ministry in Korea is tough about who they accept to train their teachers....but the job sounds interesting, in that you will get the experience of training teachers......and that is a change from the usual stuff ghost has done using ``New Interchange`` and ``Headway`` - when teaching in Taiwan.
ghost |
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