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[Kuros]

Interview with an Israeli soldier

[Adventurer]

In Lebanon, when Hezbollah launched that war it enjoyed some popularity among the Sunni population of Lebanon. That evaporated, essentially with people seeing how their homes were destroyed in the war, the way Hezbollah was acting so power hungry and attacking the democratically elected Sunni prime minister. The Christians mostly opposed Hezbollah, but you have had the Christian factional leader General Michel Aoun forming an alliance with Hezbollah which he critcized in the past from exile. Michel Aoun has lost some of his cadres who defected to the Christian groups who are friendly with the Sunni prime minister, so though the Christians are divided because of Michel Aoun, the majority support the government, and as Samir Geagea said to Hezbollah they cannot win since most Christians, Sunnis, and Druze are together against them. Also, some of the Shiite moderates are going to change their votes. I hope that will be enough during the next parliamentary elections to put Hezbollah in its proper place - away from so much power in Lebanon.

[Kuros]

That's not a bad summary from what I understand of the situation, Adventurer.

[ddeubel]

I really don't know what to say about Lebanon. Complex and unfortunately, too many power hungry people on all sides, misusing the public trust and the "hope" of the common people.

I follow the blogs fairly regularly on Lebanon. They give good insight into the mindset of those there, the real people and not the puppets and pretenders. A good portal site for blogs is

http://lebanonheartblogs.blogspot.com/

It must be said regarding the present "crisis" that Nasrallah was the beneficiary of Israel's wish to not chose a path of peace. Why they would want another Saladin, on their border, is beyond me. But they've created one. I find these words prescient, from one Lebanese blogger,

[contrarian]

Israel should have gone into Southern Lebanon in a full acale Blitzkreig. If a shot come from a building, take the building out, if a rocket comes from a general area flatten the area.

Israel cannot afford proportional response.

[bucheon bum]

[Adventurer]

[ddeubel]

[contrarian]

Israel can afford a disproprtionate response and the would not have had to occupy Lebanon. Simply a Blitzkrieg to the Bekkaa valley and South Bieruth, then back to Israel leaving a scorched earth behind.

As with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan there would be no more terrorist holy warriors the price to pay would be too horrible to contemplate. In an exaggerated sense it would be: "Kill them all and let God sort them out."

Have you ever heard of the Sampson Option?

This is an unspoken Israeli policy. They have over 200 nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them. As Sampson of Biblical times killed more in his death by pulling the temple down on himself and the Philistines; so Israel, if defeat ever seemed inevitable, would turn the entire middle east into a glass parking lot.

[TheUrbanMyth]

[Adventurer]

[contrarian]

adventurer:

I am a Jew because my mother and her mother were Jews, long lapsed Jews. I even have an Israeli passport. I know the History. I know the Bible or but not in Hebrew. tetty well. If you look at the maps even in the days of David and Soloman Phillistia was not part of the Israelit kingdoms.

My recipe for going in hard against Hezbollah is to take them out of the border regions, South Beiruth, and the Bekaah valley and to leave them in such a weakend condition that the rest of the Lebanese can fill the vacuum [/b]and confront Syria.

My reference to tha Sampson Option did not include turning Lebanon into a glass parking lot. It is the option that Israel would use before the would accept defeat. It would include the entire middle east. Sampson after he was deceived by Delilah lost his strength and was blinded. They chained him between two pillars int eh temple of Baal to make sport of him. His hair had grown back and his strength returned he pulled the pillars down, the temple collapsed and thousands of Philistines died.

The nuclear Sampson option is that if Israel goes down the entire middle east goes with it. The glass parking lot. It is related to the two statements from the Holocaust.

Never again will we go quietly into the night, and Massada shall not fall again.

The mistake nearly everyone except the Christian right in the US, the religious Jews and the Fundamentalist Muslims make is to think that there is a secular solution to what is essentially a religious issue.

[ddeubel]

[ddeubel]

[contrarian]

DD

All out war is inevitable. For the uninitiated it as called Armageddon, the Apocalypse, and has been prophesied since old testament times.

Besides God have the land of Canaan to Abraham, the Isaac and the Jacob, called Israel.

There is no secular solutions