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Nowhere Man

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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: US invades Iran(ian Consulate) |
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http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=a90DLQrWr.YY&refer=us
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The raid follows a warning yesterday to Iran and Syria from President George W. Bush in his address to the American people on a new strategy for Iraq. Bush accused Iran and Syria of aiding the movement of ``terrorists and insurgents'' in and out of Iraq and said the U.S. will ``seek out and destroy the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies.'' |
Are the 20,000 troops to be used in conjuction with an attack on Iran? |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:01 am Post subject: Re: US invades Iran(ian Consulate) |
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Nowhere Man wrote: |
Are the 20,000 troops to be used in conjuction with an attack on Iran? |
I doubt thats the plan..but plans can change if need be.
In any case let the Israelis bomb the nuclear sites first and see what happens. |
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Corky

Joined: 06 Jan 2004
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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I pulled this off Debka, an Israeli intelligence website.
DEBKAfile: Kurdish sources report five helicopters carried US forces to pre-dawn raid of Iranian consulate in N. Iraqi town of Irbil
January 11, 2007, 5:21 PM (GMT+02:00)
They were dropped on the roof while armored vehicles encircled the building. The troops used loudspeakers to call out in Farsi and Arabic to the consulate staff not to resist �or else they would be killed.� Five Iranian diplomatic staff members were detained and documents and computers impounded.
Tehran has strongly protested this breach of its sovereign territory and summoned the Swiss ambassador who represents US interests in Iran and the Iraqi ambassador to demand the immediate release of the Iranian diplomats.
Later Thursday, Jan. 11, Tehran reported three large explosions shaking the southern town of Khorramshahr north of the oil port of Abadan on the Shatt al-Arb waterway.
DEBKAfile: Khorramshahr, which faces the Iraqi town of Basra, is one of the key towns from which Iran delivers smuggled fighters, weapons and explosives to its Shiite supporters in Iraq. Our sources also report that some hours before President George W. Bush�s policy speech, a series of explosions were heard in Iranian Balochistan. Tehran imposed a blackout on the incident.
These statements and events tie in closely with the new Iraq strategy announced by the US president of confronting Iran and Syria for �allowing networks to use their territory to attack US forces.� |
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cyrax

Joined: 31 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: US invades Iran(ian Consulate) |
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Junior wrote: |
Nowhere Man wrote: |
Are the 20,000 troops to be used in conjuction with an attack on Iran? |
I doubt thats the plan..but plans can change if need be.
In any case let the Israelis bomb the nuclear sites first and see what happens. |
Wow! Let the Israelis bomb an installation and "let's see"? The US bombed Iraq and we are "seeing" what's happening there. 3000 + American troops dead. Israel is an unwanted neighbor in the middle east. Do you have any idea of the loss of life when Iran retaliates? |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: US invades Iran(ian Consulate) |
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cyrax wrote: |
Wow! Let the Israelis bomb an installation and "let's see"? The US bombed Iraq and we are "seeing" what's happening there. 3000 + American troops dead. Israel is an unwanted neighbor in the middle east. Do you have any idea of the loss of life when Iran retaliates? |
Israel must protect itself. This includes destroying nuclear installations in the hands of a maniacal leader intent on wiping Israel off the face of the earth.
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Israel is an unwanted neighbor in the middle east. |
Iran is an unwanted neighbour on planet earth.
What do you advise exactly by the way? |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:46 pm Post subject: Re: US invades Iran(ian Consulate) |
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Junior wrote: |
Iran is an unwanted neighbour on planet earth.
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I have to admit this made me laugh. |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: US invades Iran(ian Consulate) |
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cyrax wrote: |
Junior wrote: |
Nowhere Man wrote: |
Are the 20,000 troops to be used in conjuction with an attack on Iran? |
I doubt thats the plan..but plans can change if need be.
In any case let the Israelis bomb the nuclear sites first and see what happens. |
Wow! Let the Israelis bomb an installation and "let's see"? The US bombed Iraq and we are "seeing" what's happening there. 3000 + American troops dead. Israel is an unwanted neighbor in the middle east. Do you have any idea of the loss of life when Iran retaliates? |
No we invaded Iran get it right. Desert Fox under CLinton was just a bombing and nothing happened. This was an invasion. |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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"U.S. Links 5 Iranians to Iraq Insurgency
By LAUREN FRAYER
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - Five Iranians arrested in northern Iraq last week were connected to an Iranian Revolutionary Guard faction that funds and arms insurgents in Iraq, the U.S. military said Sunday.
The statement provided the first details from the military on the five people detained by U.S.-led forces Thursday in a raid on what the Iraqis and Tehran said was an Iranian liaison office in Irbil, a city in Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq about 220 miles north of Baghdad.
The military said the Qods Force faction of the Revolutionary Guard, the military pillar of Iran's Islamic Revolution, is "known for providing funds, weapons, improvised explosive device technology and training to extremist groups attempting to destabilize the Government of Iraq and attack Coalition forces."
"Qods" is the Arabic name for Jerusalem, and a frequent name for political or military factions across the Muslim world."
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070114/D8ML5JUO1.html
"U.S. military: Arrested Iranians linked to arming insurgents in Iraq
BAGHDAD (AP) � Five Iranians arrested in northern Iraq last week were connected to an Iranian Revolutionary Guard faction that funds and arms insurgents in Iraq, the U.S. military said Sunday.
The statement provided the first details from the military on the five people detained by U.S.-led forces Thursday in a raid on what the Iraqis and Tehran said was an Iranian liaison office in Irbil, a city in Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq about 220 miles north of Baghdad.
The military said the Quds Force faction of the Revolutionary Guard, the military pillar of Iran's Islamic Revolution, is "known for providing funds, weapons, improvised explosive device technology and training to extremist groups attempting to destabilize the Government of Iraq and attack Coalition forces.""
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-01-14-iranian-detainees_x.htm
"Iran demands US releases captives (al Jazeera)
Iran has demanded the immediate release of five Iranians held by US forces in Iraq, saying that they are diplomats.
Mohammad Ali Hosseini, a foreign ministry spokesman, rejected on Sunday US accusations that its five nationals were agents of the Revolutionary Guards seeking to destabilise Iraq.
The United States military said in a statement earlier on Sunday that the detainees were connected to an Iranian group that provides weapons to Iraqi fighters."
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/17997E88-2361-4C6A-9813-CA905F6FA831.htm
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cbclark4

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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:13 am Post subject: |
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RE: my last post of news articles.
There are hints that plans are underway to hit sites in Iran that are being used to manufacture IEDs. It is rumored that the captured Iranian "Diplomats" are spilling their guts, having been caught red handed in possession of said IEDs.
Sit back and watch.
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Interesting title, Nowhere Man. A raid characterized as "an invasion."
But what do you think about the Iranians' storming and then seizing the American embassy in Tehran in 1979? The Iranians' holding American foreign service officers and other personnel hostage, at gunpoint, for a year?
Did Iran invade the United States? |
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Nowhere Man

Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:55 am Post subject: ... |
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The title was a reference to both the article and follow-up question as to whether this and the troop surge is the lead-up to an attack on Iran.
I suppose if you want to be technical, then both cases constitute a kind of invasion given that embassies and such are considered "sovereign soil", or whatever the proper term is for it.
So, yes. |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your response.
I agree that this...
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Are the 20,000 troops to be used in conjuction with an attack on Iran? |
...is the question of the hour. The surge makes no sense to me. I am with McCain on this: send in 200,000 (my number) or send none at all. Twenty-thousand changes little or nothing on the ground in Iraq. It does, however, create new stresses on our own armed forces.
Does the Administration intend to signal or indeed pressure Tehran with the surge and with ops like this raid? Has the war really been between Washington and Tehran (or more probably: the Shiites) all along -- that is, since 1979?
These are certainly the questions. We can only speculate. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Why not pull the troops out of Iraq and send them to Tehran? Iraq isn't developing Nukes, Iran is. |
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madcap

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Location: Gangneung, Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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There we go! A solution for everybody! We make all the people that want us to leave Iraq happy by sending them over the boarder and all those gung-ho terrorist fighters out there can be happy when we level Tehran. Really, what are our troops doing in Iraq anyway? Hmm...isn't there a war going on or something? Might be a question of availability as I think they are booked solid until 2008. |
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Junior

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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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madcap wrote: |
Might be a question of availability as I think they are booked solid until 2008. |
Waste of time. As I say, the threat to be dealt with is in Iran, not Iraq. make sense?
The only thing Iraq is developing is a murder rate. tehran is devloping nukes. get in their quickly and stop them would seem to be the obvious plan. Let Iraq find its own equilibrium now, trying to impose one on them won't work. |
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