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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: U.S. Military Spied on Hundreds of Antiwar Demos |
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U.S. Military Spied on Hundreds of Antiwar Demos
OneWorld.net - Wed Jan 24, 6:20 PM ET
SAN FRANCISCO, Jan 24 (OneWorld) - At least 186 antiwar protests in the United States have been monitored by the Pentagon's domestic surveillance program, according to documents obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which also found that the Defense Department collected more than 2,800 reports involving Americans in a single anti-terrorism database
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/oneworld/45361453951169684424 |
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wannago
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| And this isn't a problem unless you're a kool-aid drinker. |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| And this isn't a problem unless you're a kool-aid drinker. |
Actually, it "isn't a problem" if you ARE a kool-aid drinker.
Despite what the ditto-heads tell you, protesting a war doesn't make one a terrorist, nor a terrorist sympathizer. |
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wannago
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| twg wrote: |
| wannago wrote: |
| And this isn't a problem unless you're a kool-aid drinker. |
Actually, it "isn't a problem" if you ARE a kool-aid drinker.
Despite what the ditto-heads tell you, protesting a war doesn't make one a terrorist, nor a terrorist sympathizer. |
kool-aid drinkers are the ones that usually have a problem with something like this. If you're not "a terrorist, nor a terrorist sympathizer" then you have nothing to worry about. |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Riiiiight....
Keep on chugging, pal. |
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cbclark4

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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 7:43 am Post subject: |
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They also spy on KKK rallies.
The idea is not that all the Anti War demonstrators are enemies, but that the demonstrators may be infiltrated by enemies, and so infiltrate with the spies first.
Intelligence gathering in a public place, such as a demonstration does mot impinge upon anyones privacy. The whole Idea of the demonstration is to publicly display ones attitude. I would also suspect that there are spies at the Pro Choice and Pro Life demonstrations, as well as during many of the Marathons.
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Nowhere Man

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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:56 pm Post subject: ... |
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| They also spy on KKK rallies. |
The defense department spies on KKK rallies? Link?
The defense department has no business doing this. Perhaps the FBI and, at
a stretch, the CIA.
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"I don't want it, we shouldn't have had it, not interested in it," Daniel Baur, the acting director of the Defense Department's counterintelligence field activity unit, told the New York Times. "I don't want to deal with it."
Baur told the Times his agency is no longer monitoring peace groups. |
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W.T.Carl
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Good. We now know that the Sane/Freeze anti nuke movement was controled and financed by the KGB. Who is to say that the "so called" peace movement isn't financed by Islamofacists like Hamas and Hezbollah? |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: |
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guitar:
BFD: Glad to know they're keeping tabs on that crowd of rabble rousers.
"I gave my love a cherry that had no stone..."
"If you're goin' to San Francisco, you're goin' to meet some gentle people there..."
"If I had a hammer, I'd singin' it in the mornin'..."
Ya know what, you just conjured up for me an image of a folk singer on a stairs when who should walk by but frat boy John Belushi to bash his guitar against the bannister. LMAO. |
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Nowhere Man

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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: ... |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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I will admit, I don't like the idea of spying on American peace groups, but it is not like tapping someone's phone without a warrant, now is it?
Law enforcement is not arresting anyone by attending their meetings or going to their demonstrations. If no laws are broken, then it is not an invasion of their privacy per se. In theory, a group could have extreme elements whether it is the KKK, an extreme leftist group. For example, if the Greek government spied on leftists more they may have found out about a planned attack on the American Embassy in Greece. Just a thought. I am not for the phone taps without warrants, however. |
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