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Adventurer
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 Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: Escalation what do you think is going to happen? |
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| I know the Iraq topic is old and this post does not include a criticism of Bush. I am curious to see what you fellows think may happen. I think since the Democrats took over Congress Bush will feel under the gun to get Casey to get quick results if he gets 20,000 soldiers down there and to try to create various seas of tranquility in Baghdad by sealing certain parts from each other and having patrols and trying to restore order in Baghdad. If that is done, then things would look better. I believe that is what will be attempted. There is a chance of success but in a country where you can't simply stop movement, the insurgents would move around to blow things up. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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I realize this would likely be a logistical nightmare, but my idea was (years ago) to force residents in neighborhoods to evacuate through checkpoints and have the buildings searched in a systematic manner.
I especially thought about this prior to the operation against Fallujah. Just tell the populace "You will leave this area for __ hours/days until we have completed our search to ensure that there are no weapons."
Anyone who needed assistance in this would be provided with the help they needed (sick, elderly, children, etc.). Temporary accomodation (tents and food?) would be provided.
Anyone remaining in the area would be considered a probable combatant.
Seems to me to be more humane and perhaps more effective than running in with guns blazing. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's going to continue to get worse. I think the Iraqi people will continue to get closer and closer to the Islamo-fascists. Iran will continue to have more influence over the nation.
The war handed the nation over to the people they were supposed to be getting rid of. The longer it goes on, the more entrenched the Islamo fascists will become. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I think since the Democrats took over Congress Bush will feel under the gun to get Casey to get quick results if he gets 20,000 soldiers down there and to try to create various seas of tranquility in Baghdad by sealing certain parts from each other and having patrols and trying to restore order in Baghdad. If that is done, then things would look better. I believe that is what will be attempted. |
I don't believe that is REALLY what is going to be attempted. Call me a cynic but I have very good reasons given the past examples of this administration, to believe otherwise.
What I mean is that the real reason for the "surge" was to increase violence, especially direct combat with American soldiers. All this through the guise of trying to make a "sea of tranquility", as you put it.
Bush does feel pressure. but they way he will deal with it, will be as before -- to create a climate of fear and violence and mayhem, so he will again prey upon the spirit of "defend the nation" and win the Republicans once more the white house. This is his M.O., rally around the nation, rally around the chief, your very life and future is at stake.
So the surge will only lead to another surge. And on and on, perpetual war, fear all in the name of his fanatical power drive.
On a side note but to further illustrate the above premise -- Bush is asking for 80 billion more military aid for Afghanistan and 2 billion of developmental and educational assistance aid. We see the priorities........he doesn't want to win hearts and minds, just feed confrontation and military pocketbooks (jobs at home).
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Whether 20,000 troops are sent or not is not going to make any long-term difference. It is clear the US will leave. The only questions are: a) when and b) how many more troops will die before they are all withdrawn.
If the terrorists were smart, they'd declare a unilateral ceasefire, 'allowing' the US to get out faster, then they can get back to the business of killing each other until one side succeeds in establishing control (or one or more neighboring countries sends its troops in). |
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