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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:38 am Post subject: Small Town Immie Hath Punted My Pooper |
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I am bummed, feeling stupid, and a little hard done by.
When my prospective employer applied for my E2 visa, it took a really long time for the immie officers to give an answer. When they did finally reply they said, and I quote, "the school you listed on your resume as your first job in Korea has no record of you. You're a liar, a liar, your pants are on fire, and we're gonna hang your dumb ass from a telephone wire."
Well, in retrospect, I realized that I had put on my resume the name that my school operated under, rather than the name they had put on the contract. This was three and a half years ago that I signed with them, and I had forgotten that they were paying a semi-reputable college to use their name and their office space. The consortium-cabal that I suppose owned the school is a scurrillious, bilious, secretary groping murder of thug scumbag teacher-diddlers, and had a rotten reputation in the neighborhood; so, the guy who ran my branch had gone out of his way to hide his associations with them. I was told that the company's True Name must never-be-spoken-aloud. Anyway, I know two guys who've since had arms and legs and paychecks ripped off them by other branches of that company (hereafter called VOLDEMORT), but the guy I worked for was fine and always paid me on time. No problems there.
Until now...
So, the new boss and I went into the Den of the Mighty Immie-feds today, and I grovelled and stooped and begged forgiveness for being so dumb, but said I had no intention of misleading anybody. They are now considering, they say, whether or not to give me the visa, or else just rip my remaining limbs off and suck out what little life-juice I have left.
I'm torn between being mad, sad, contrite, and viciously spitefully vengefully angry. I worked two years for the same school AFTER working for the first guys, and never had a lick of trouble from anybody, about anything, ever. I'm pretty goddamn sure I did the same thing when applying for the second visa--namely, putting the OPERATING name of the Voldemort School on my resume, rather than their secret-evil-hidden name, which I had pretty much cauterized out of my mind, anyway.
I may be deported, apparently. Oh well, I guess I can go back to work in the salt mines of Kessel again...they still love me...
But really, does this seem a little bit over the top to anybody else, or do you guys think I deserve to be shunned and burned, too? I'm not looking for sympathy, of course--hunting pity on Dave's would be like snuffling for truffles and camembert on the moon, and I know it. Would like to hear your nobly sagacious Opinions, though.
If they do stuff me on this, do you all think I am, like, banned from this country forever, or what? I get a golden salt-shaker if I do another forty on Kessel, sure, and that is appealing, but I really LIKE it here, and I'd hate to get the cold hobnails up the pooter for something as trivial and inane as this. |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Do u have your old boss's contact details?
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Why does Immi need your resume? Are your previous visas still in your passport? It all sounds a bit much. It's simply outrageous that a screw-up from an employer of years gone by could mess you up now. |
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lover.asian
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| When my prospective employer applied for my E2 visa, it took a really long time for the immie officers to give an answer. When they did finally reply they said, and I quote, "the school you listed on your resume as your first job in Korea has no record of you. You're a liar, a liar, your pants are on fire, and we're gonna hang your dumb ass from a telephone wire." |
Scan the relevant visas from your passport, then email them to immigration.
This seems very strange as only a few keystrokes by the immigration officer is needed to bring up your complete history of sojourn in Korea. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry I cannot remember the details well but one of my old co-workers told me this story:
The two-year college he worked for changed their name. There was probably some memo in Korean but for whatever reason it never got back to my old co-worker. So, when we filed his papers to re-new his visa he used the old name.
Anyway, big red flags went up at Immigration. The upshot was they fined my old co-worker something like a million won. Can you believe that? So, yes, the information you put on these forms is important to immigration.
My co-worker argued that the college he worked for should pay the fine. At first, they were aghast and refused. The chairman of the department even walked him to the front gate and showed him where the new name was written in Chinese! Eventually, they relented and paid the fine for him.
I had another friend who told me a story of one time he applied for a university job. To make his resume look more impressive, he wrote on it that he worked part-time at a large Chaebol (Company). I guess it was true. His last university got him the job, he claimed.
Anyway, the new university submitted his resume to immigration; immigration actually looked at his resume and fined him for working a job that he was not registered for at immigration. They kept him on pins and needles with a few hearings about whether he would be deported or not but in the end they just fined him. He is still working in Korea (as far as I know), a great teacher and very gainfully employed.
Bottom line: Be very careful about what you submit to Immigration. It is their job to find fault with you. |
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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Still on tenterhooks here, waiting to get word. After reading your posts I had nightmares and imagine I can hear them sharpening their boots and spurs and snickering evilly, waiting for the opportune time to come and gut me.
Thinking maybe Japan this year, after all... |
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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: |
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Got the visa number, went to do the japan visarun, came back, and when we went to immie to get my e2 card, they said 'we're fining you 2.5 million won.'
I'm really, really pissed. |
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happygirl

Joined: 20 Feb 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| I don't understand what they are fining you for. Incorrect information on a visa application? Lying? - from their perspective. Breathing? |
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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| On my resume, I put the name of the school I had worked for. They had two names, but I used the operating name. They apparently have fined that school for using a name different than the one on their business license. Me, I guess they are fining me because I worked for them? I dunno really. A bit of a mystery. |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| swetepete wrote: |
| On my resume, I put the name of the school I had worked for. They had two names, but I used the operating name. They apparently have fined that school for using a name different than the one on their business license. Me, I guess they are fining me because I worked for them? I dunno really. A bit of a mystery. |
Well, that makes whole lot of sense.  |
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| It's the spice mines of Kessel. Why mine salt from a planet when it's found everywhere. |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Small Town Immie Hath Punted My Pooper |
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| swetepete wrote: |
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But really, does this seem a little bit over the top to anybody else, or do you guys think I deserve to be shunned and burned, too? I'm not looking for sympathy, of course--hunting pity on Dave's would be like snuffling for truffles and camembert on the moon, and I know it. Would like to hear your nobly sagacious Opinions, though.
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I've done much stupider things and you surely have all my sympathies. I don't think I could justify paying the 2.5 million won, but I don't know how you can get out of it. Sigh. There are no words to describe the teeth-grinding exasperation and irritation I feel when bureaucracy rears its ugly origami head. |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Pak Yu Man wrote: |
| It's the spice mines of Kessel. Why mine salt from a planet when it's found everywhere. |
that's the cold, angry stare of hundreds of angry star wars geeks you're feeling on the back of your neck right now, swetepete. |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: Gwangwang
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Appeal the fine. There are avenues of appeal open to you. This is just beauracratcic bull. Some jumped up little immi wannabe that has never been laid. To roughly quote Robin Williams from Good Morning Vietnam, "That man is in dire need of a blow job, more than any man I have met." Probably misquoted, but what the hey. Best of luck in your new job.  |
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| KWhitehead wrote: |
| Pak Yu Man wrote: |
| It's the spice mines of Kessel. Why mine salt from a planet when it's found everywhere. |
that's the cold, angry stare of hundreds of angry star wars geeks you're feeling on the back of your neck right now, swetepete. |
Yep...don't make me pull out my lightsaber spoon. That thing cold do damage if I needed it too  |
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