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Dead Poets Society (With Robbin Williams)

 
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Len8



Joined: 12 Feb 2003
Location: Kyungju

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Dead Poets Society (With Robbin Williams) Reply with quote

Film reminded me a lot about the rigidity of Korean education, and how some teachers are forced to subvert their creative selves for the sake of getting their highschool students into Seoul national university.

Wonder if the high student suicide rate here is for the same reasons the guy who wanted to be a drama student felt about being forced to study stuff he wasn't interested in.
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Medic



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. I did the two week stint as a teacher of the Korean highschool and middle school teachers during the break, and one of the teachers actually told everyone about how he was remanded for his teaching style, because he was giving the students too much leeway. His counter to the reprimand was that he believed in encouraging creativity instead of forcing the students to blindly do the ridiculous classwork that getting a good CSAT score requires. Not in the good books of the principle, but he has stuck to his guns and his still doing his own thing.
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kimchi story



Joined: 23 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved the movie, I was a boarding student at a private school when it came out.

As a teacher now, though, it never fails to raise a critical question for me.

Is there value in teaching students to think outside the box, when most of them can't recognize the box in the first place? Or is the result, as was John Keatings experience, an ineluctable tragedy.

I resolve this by making my classroom a fun place to be, but would never, never want a Knox on my conscience.

Truly an ethical dilemma.
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Pendennis



Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Location: Cornwall

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimchi story wrote:
I loved the movie, I was a boarding student at a private school when it came out.

As a teacher now, though, it never fails to raise a critical question for me.

Is there value in teaching students to think outside the box, when most of them can't recognize the box in the first place? Or is the result, as was John Keatings experience, an ineluctable tragedy.

I resolve this by making my classroom a fun place to be, but would never, never want a Knox on my conscience.

Truly an ethical dilemma.


"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it."
-- Terry Pratchett
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you ever decide to use the film in a class, a great teaching guide can be found here:
http://www.eslnotes.com/movies/html/dead-poets-society.html.
Most of the students I taught were able to relate to the film very well.
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kimchi story



Joined: 23 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cwemory wrote:
If you ever decide to use the film in a class, a great teaching guide can be found here:
http://www.eslnotes.com/movies/html/dead-poets-society.html.
Most of the students I taught were able to relate to the film very well.


Brilliant - instead of fearing the thing, having some discussion about it makes prefect sense. Thanks for that gem.

And great quote, Pendennis!
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimchi story wrote:
cwemory wrote:
If you ever decide to use the film in a class, a great teaching guide can be found here:
http://www.eslnotes.com/movies/html/dead-poets-society.html.
Most of the students I taught were able to relate to the film very well.


Brilliant - instead of fearing the thing, having some discussion about it makes prefect sense. Thanks for that gem.

And great quote, Pendennis!


Unless your students are very high-level and you are well-qualified. I would steer clear of this movie for students who haven't left school.

Suicide is a sensitive cultural matter and much as we like to think we are broadening our students experiences, we aren't qualified nor mandated to be providing pastoral care to them.
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