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Are Holy Places attackable?
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:29 am    Post subject: Are Holy Places attackable? Reply with quote

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Palestinian officials, calling the synagogues symbols of 38 years of Israeli occupation, said Israel should have destroyed them before withdrawing.


http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/624320.html

Should Israel have destroyed the Mosque on the Temple Mount when they invaded in 1966 because they were reclaiming Jewish land (previously controlled by non jews) that had been held by others since 70 AD?

There is depth to this issue that I don't even want to touch, though I will bring up the discrepency.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050913/wl_mideast_afp/mideastgazaisraelreligion
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:32 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Not according to Highlander. Very Happy
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey the Highlander was only from 1600 ad approx. Laughing
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Israeli police have warned people not to attack mosques and will, in fact, protect them. Palestinian police stand by and watch as people desecrate synagogues. A telling difference.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

muslims should have destroyed the dome of the rock before withdrawing from Israel.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, in his first comments to reporters since Israel quit Gaza, said on Tuesday the burning of synagogues by Palestinians rushing into evacuated Jewish settlements was no less than he expected.


I believe that after the Japanese left Korea in 1945, the Koreans tore down almost all of the Shinto temples and shrines that had been put up during the colonial era. Does anyone have a problem with this? I certainly don't.
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe that after the Japanese left Korea in 1945, the Koreans tore down almost all of the Shinto temples and shrines that had been put up during the colonial era. Does anyone have a problem with this? I certainly don't


Any muslims on this web want to say how they would feel if Israel tore down the Aqsa ( Question ) Mosque?

http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/article_13268.shtml
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Gord



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
I believe that after the Japanese left Korea in 1945, the Koreans tore down almost all of the Shinto temples and shrines that had been put up during the colonial era. Does anyone have a problem with this? I certainly don't.


You don't have an issue with people telling you what religion you can practice?
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You don't have an issue with people telling you what religion you can practice?


Are the EVACUATED settlers being prevented from practicing Judaism in wherever it is that they've been evacuated to?
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old topic, but possibly relevant.

http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/politics/articles/pol_0097.htm
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there is some perspective missing from this thread.

When the Israelis planned to withdraw from Gaza they knew the synagogues were going to be abandoned along with the communities and neighbourhoods they served.
They only question was whether to demolish them themselves or let the Palestians demolish them.
They chose the option which most suited them politically and strategically.
And so by the same token most of the settlers who were removed chose a scorched earth option with regard to their houses and communities to deny the Palestinians any benefits of their withdrawal.

These are community Synagogues here- there is no equivalent to the Al aqsa mosque, or the Sistine chapel, or Canterbury Cathedral, or the Hagia Sophia.
It's an apples and oranges comparison.

Would anybody be freaking out if a construction company bulldozed a decrepit abandoned church in Detroit in order to make way for an urban renewal project?


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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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These are community Synagogues here- there is no equivalent to the Al aqsa mosque, or the Sistine chapel for that matter. It's an apples and oranges comparison.


I think you are missing the point. They don't have an equivilent. They only thing the have is the Synagogues. Do you want to give them back the Temple Mount? It was probably as much a test to see if Palestinians would treat them fairly. In the the 1966 Invasion, how many mosques did they destroy? Are the Palestinians willing to accept Jewish holy places, some of them in the West Bank go back to the 2000 bc, will Christians accept desecration of their holy places in the west Bank? It seems to be a test.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then blame Sharon and the IDF, because for all practical purposes they've given the Palestinians the green light to have the Synagogues removed.

Gee, I wonder what Netenyahu's position on this will be?
And whether he'll be capitalizing on it politically?

It's not simply a clear-cut religious issue.
But of course these things hardly ever are.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They don't have an equivilent. They only thing the have is the Synagogues.


The fact that the Jewish religion does not currently have an equivalent to the Al aqsa mosque or the Vatican does not elevate the status of these ABANDONED synagogues.

Let's say a Jehovah's Witness comes to my door and leaves a Watchtower with me. After giving it a cursory glance, I decide to draw rude doodles and vulgar captions on the pictures. My wife tells me I shouldn't do this, because it would be comparable to walking into a Catholic Church DURING MASS and spitting on the eucharist, which Catholics believe to be the body of Christ. When I point out that the Watchtower is not the equivalent to the Catholic eucharist, and anyway the JW left the Watchtower in my possession, she replies that since JWs don't have a Eucharist, the Watchtower is the closest equivalent. Is this a convincing argument against doodling obscenities in the magazine?


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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigh Rolling Eyes
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