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ella

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: Where would you teach to make money (excluding Korea)? |
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| If you were female, 30s, American, and had a B.A., no cert, 3 years' ESL experience, university teaching experience, and tech writing experience, where would you teach (excluding Korea) if you wanted to be completely mercenary and just make money for a few years? I also speak Spanish and Hindi, if that helps. |
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Japan. I know it's expensive to live there, but why do you think that so many people have been consistently going there and staying there for much longer periods of time than here?
They say you can save more money here, but I don't believe it. I think Koreans nickel and dime you to death here, and if that were true about the savings...the teachers in Japan would be coming here in droves. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Whichever place decided, the plan would begin with teaching privates in Korea on a tourist visa and when caught and told to leave the country, then initiate the next stage of the plan.
There's so much money to be made in Korea teaching privates that if one didn't plan on ever returning then doing privates at the end of one's intended stay makes perfect sense, financially speaking. |
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ella

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| My impression from the job listings for Japan is that they generally want someone younger who has a TEFL certificate. Is that correct? |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'd go to Taiwan. The initial outlay is a bit more because you have to pay your own airfare and rent, but otherwise the money seems to be comparable. Then again, if you're already here, airfare won't be that much ($300-400 USD). Whether it's better or worse to live there overall seems to be a matter of heated debate here, and one I'm not really qualified for since I've never been there for longer than a week's vacation. Some big advantages seem to be the much warmer weather, and the closer proximity (hence lower airfares) to SE Asia.
Ella, can I take this to mean that you're giving up on Korea? I honestly don't understand why you're having such a hard time finding a job. Are you being picky? Are you getting no offers whatsoever? Have you posted ads on the major boards stating that you're an American woman with experience that's in Seoul?
You should be swamped with job offers, at least crappy ones.
Last edited by Son Deureo! on Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:20 am; edited 1 time in total |
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jlb
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Ella: I'm wondering the same thing. Are you done with Korea? Just pick a job, talk to the foreigners working there to make sure they're okay with the job and sign it! |
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ella

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Not giving up, just exploring other options while I'm looking here. |
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Trumpcard
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| teaching Business English on a part time basis for a few Business English outsourcing companies in Tokyo or Osaka, or even try and land a few part time uni gigs in Japan at once - friend of mine is earning 500,000 yen PER MONTH doing this and working less than 20 hours per week max. Or if you're really gung-ho, go to Dongguan in China and set yourself up as a freelancer teacher English to any of the odd 13,000 foreign businesses that have setup shop there - insane money! |
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ella

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Uni in Japan and freelance business English in China... with just a B.A.? |
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joeyjoejoe
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:04 am Post subject: |
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nigeria.
working for a french oil company executive's family. |
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waltjocketty

Joined: 09 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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nigeria.
working for a french oil company executive's family. |
About 6 months ago I got a bizarre email talking about this...I blew it off as some bizarre scheme, but is this actually a common job? Or did you receive the same email? |
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Trumpcard
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| a top-tier uni job in japan might be difficult with a BA but certainly teaching business english there will be no problem. as long as you have a heartbeat in China u can teach english there, but the quaality of life is another thing...! |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| ella wrote: |
| Not giving up, just exploring other options while I'm looking here. |
It just seems to me (and I think many other posters on the board) that you've been researching Korea for nearly a year and you've been over here for a few weeks and you've yet to sign a contract then I don't think you are ready to make a long-term commitment to life abroad or at least to living in Korea. But I don't think you'll find what you are looking for in any other parts of Asia either.
It seems to me that you want to jump right into a top-notch job without doing the time in the so-so jobs here. Nobody here would advocate that you sign with a bad school, but to be honest getting a gig at top-tier places just isn't going to happen with your present qualifications and experience. But there are plenty of reasonable jobs out there (esp. right now), so that you can get your professional experience. With a solid year of teaching in-country EFL and the right networking you could probably land one of those jobs in a year. |
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joeyjoejoe
Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| waltjocketty wrote: |
| joeyjoejoe wrote: |
nigeria.
working for a french oil company executive's family. |
About 6 months ago I got a bizarre email talking about this...I blew it off as some bizarre scheme, but is this actually a common job? Or did you receive the same email? |
i got three different emails from three different guys for their families.
all around 5-6k US a month with all expenses covered, even a car.
as soon as i saw the word 'nigeria', i too thought it was a scam, but i expressed interest anyway.
i never got a reply.
so i figure it was legit, because if it was a scam i would have heard more about it after i replied. guess i'll never know for sure |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Ella, I'm sure I'm not the only one around here to be wondering exactly what kinds of job offers you've been getting, and what kind of job you're holding out for. Maybe we can help give you an idea of how realistic you're being.
As CLG pointed out, most people do not get their best job in Korea on their first try, even if they are in country while they're looking. However, it is prime hiring season right now for public schools. If you can't find a hogwon with reasonable conditions, you probably couldn't go too far wrong by working for a public school your first year here. With a year's experience, a bigger nest-egg, and the connections you've made after a year, you're bound to do even better in your second year. |
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