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chaz47
Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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 Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: Dongrae Busan Public schools? |
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Hey does anyone on here know about Dongrae in Busan? I want to get a school that's on the subway line as I will already be commuting about a half an hour by subway to get to Dongrae... I don't want to get to Dongrae and then have to catch a bus to some school out in the boondocks.
I know this is the case in the Haeundae school district for many teachers. Because they are at the edge of the Busan metropolitan area so their district includes many rural areas.
Is Dongrae this way too?
Why can't EPIK tell you where you will be? I ask what my school will be and it's all a big mystery. Has anyone else had this experience, if this were a hagwon that would be a HUGE red flag wouldn't it? |
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Horangi Munshin
Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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There is a subway stop called Dongnae as you know but Dongnae gu is fairly big I thnk it includes sajik dong, myungnyundong, allak-dong etc, for allak-dong especially you will need to take a bus.
Check out the map pages on the net or pusanweb, or find a link to the dongnae website, that will have general information about how big dongnae is etc. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: Dongrae Busan Public schools? |
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Why can't EPIK tell you where you will be? I ask what my school will be and it's all a big mystery. Has anyone else had this experience, if this were a hagwon that would be a HUGE red flag wouldn't it? |
That's the main reason why I turned EPIK down. Now I'm so glad I did. It really shows a lack of commitment in attracting experienced teachers and a preference for just placing any foriegner in any school. |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: Re: Dongrae Busan Public schools? |
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I'll bet it's in large part because they don't know themselves.
I think it's really tough for the public schools to book teachers. A lot of people cut bait when they find a better job, leaving the public schools hanging at the last minute. They want to be as flexible as ppossible until they know who they can place where.
My advice: Walk a mile in their shoes before you criticize.
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| chaz47 wrote: |
Why can't EPIK tell you where you will be? I ask what my school will be and it's all a big mystery. Has anyone else had this experience, if this were a hagwon that would be a HUGE red flag wouldn't it? |
That's the main reason why I turned EPIK down. Now I'm so glad I did. It really shows a lack of commitment in attracting experienced teachers and a preference for just placing any foriegner in any school. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: Re: Dongrae Busan Public schools? |
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| Trevor wrote: |
I'll bet it's in large part because they don't know themselves.
I think it's really tough for the public schools to book teachers. A lot of people cut bait when they find a better job, leaving the public schools hanging at the last minute. They want to be as flexible as ppossible until they know who they can place where.
My advice: Walk a mile in their shoes before you criticize.
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| chaz47 wrote: |
Why can't EPIK tell you where you will be? I ask what my school will be and it's all a big mystery. Has anyone else had this experience, if this were a hagwon that would be a HUGE red flag wouldn't it? |
That's the main reason why I turned EPIK down. Now I'm so glad I did. It really shows a lack of commitment in attracting experienced teachers and a preference for just placing any foriegner in any school. |
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'I'd like to see the school I would be working at'.
Is that really such an unreasonable demand? |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:37 am Post subject: Re: Dongrae Busan Public schools? |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Trevor wrote: |
I'll bet it's in large part because they don't know themselves.
I think it's really tough for the public schools to book teachers. A lot of people cut bait when they find a better job, leaving the public schools hanging at the last minute. They want to be as flexible as ppossible until they know who they can place where.
My advice: Walk a mile in their shoes before you criticize.
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| chaz47 wrote: |
Why can't EPIK tell you where you will be? I ask what my school will be and it's all a big mystery. Has anyone else had this experience, if this were a hagwon that would be a HUGE red flag wouldn't it? |
That's the main reason why I turned EPIK down. Now I'm so glad I did. It really shows a lack of commitment in attracting experienced teachers and a preference for just placing any foriegner in any school. |
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'I'd like to see the school I would be working at'.
Is that really such an unreasonable demand? |
I got to see my school before I signed. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| I got to see my school before I signed. |
Not before I signed by I was told i COULD change if I really wanted to (etc..)., |
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Trevor
Joined: 16 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:46 am Post subject: Re: Dongrae Busan Public schools? |
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Nope, not unreasonable at all, but if they truly don't know (which is often the case) then you have to either wait for them to figure it out or find something else.
My point is, there not necessarily trying to hide it from you. They honestly don't know.
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Trevor wrote: |
I'll bet it's in large part because they don't know themselves.
I think it's really tough for the public schools to book teachers. A lot of people cut bait when they find a better job, leaving the public schools hanging at the last minute. They want to be as flexible as ppossible until they know who they can place where.
My advice: Walk a mile in their shoes before you criticize.
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| chaz47 wrote: |
Why can't EPIK tell you where you will be? I ask what my school will be and it's all a big mystery. Has anyone else had this experience, if this were a hagwon that would be a HUGE red flag wouldn't it? |
That's the main reason why I turned EPIK down. Now I'm so glad I did. It really shows a lack of commitment in attracting experienced teachers and a preference for just placing any foriegner in any school. |
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'I'd like to see the school I would be working at'.
Is that really such an unreasonable demand? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Dongrae Busan Public schools? |
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| Trevor wrote: |
Nope, not unreasonable at all, but if they truly don't know (which is often the case) then you have to either wait for them to figure it out or find something else.
My point is, there not necessarily trying to hide it from you. They honestly don't know.
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If I'm already in Korea and have teaching experience, why couldn't EPIK let me visit a prospective school beforehand? Wouldn't the school like to know about and have some say in whom they're getting? It's just simply an absurd hiring system, targeted at getting any westerner for any school and thinking they're thereby going to bring up the standard of English education here, all the while having no idea how far they're falling short of their potential. |
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chaz47
Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Dongrae Busan Public schools? |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Trevor wrote: |
Nope, not unreasonable at all, but if they truly don't know (which is often the case) then you have to either wait for them to figure it out or find something else.
My point is, there not necessarily trying to hide it from you. They honestly don't know.
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If I'm already in Korea and have teaching experience, why couldn't EPIK let me visit a prospective school beforehand? Wouldn't the school like to know about and have some say in whom they're getting? It's just simply an absurd hiring system, targeted at getting any westerner for any school and thinking they're thereby going to bring up the standard of English education here, all the while having no idea how far they're falling short of their potential. |
Yeah, it's pretty meaningless and absurd. The way they make it sound to me, is that I am being offered the job... I need to hurry and send my only copy of transcripts and diploma to them along with the 30 or so pages of application material.
So what the hell is the whole point of the application if based on my resume I have the job if I want it? Are they lying to me about how sure the offer is? I am expected to send them my precious transcript and diploma and they cannot even tell me what school I will be in?
Plus... why is the recruiter for a Busan school in Seoul.
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