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gang ah jee

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: city of paper
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:44 am Post subject: Al Gore Nominated for Nobel Peace Prize |
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"The fight for the global climate is a fight for peace, say members of parliament B�rge Brende and Heidi S�rensen, and they have nominated former US Vice-president Al Gore for a share of the Nobel Peace Prize.
Canadian environmentalist Sheila Watt-Cloutier is now nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Former US VP Al Gore has thrust the global climate change issue into the public consciousness.
The two green-thinking MPs suggest that Gore share the prize with Inuit Sheila Watt-Cloutier, in recognition for their efforts to put the danger posed by climate change on the global political agenda.
"This is clearly, absolutely, one of the important efforts to achieve conflict prevention. Climate change can lead to enormous flows of refugees on a scale the world has never seen before. Fighting climate change is immensely important work for global peace," Heidi S�rensen, member of parliament for the Socialist Left Party (SV), told Aftenposten.
"The Nobel Committee has previously been adept at addressing new threats with their awards. Climate change is one of the greatest and most serious threats humanity faces. The United Nations' climate panel now maintains that the earth may be changed more in the next 100 years than in the 10,000 years since the last ice age," Conservative Party MP and former Minister of the Environment B�rge Brende said.
The former US VP has toured the world the past year with the film "An Inconvenient Truth", which has actualized the climate change issue for a great many people. Gore has worked with environmental issues for over 20 years and had a decisive role in forming the Kyoto protocol for reducing CO2 emissions in 1997.
Sheila Watt-Cloutier is a Canadian Inuit and for years has been one of the leaders of the Inuit Circumpolar Conference, which represents over 150,000 Inuit. In recent years she has concentrated on focusing attention on the rapid warming taking place in the Arctic, and made a massive effort to explain to world leaders that the Arctic is the planet's barometer of climate change.
"Climate change is also a threat to global welfare. One hundred million climate refugees, major changes in potable water supply and a reduction in biological diversity that will first and foremost hit the poor who live in and depend upon nature - these things will quickly become a major security threat," Brende said.
"Al Gore has done a very important job as former US VP and has created so much pressure in the USA that for the first time President Bush must now say that climate change is a problem. No other single person in the last year has done so much to put the threat of climate change on the agenda, and contributed to lasting changes in international policy," B�rge Brende said.
"Gore played a key role in Kyoto and Sheila Watt-Cloutier has opened the world's eyes to what is happening in the Arctic. When she communicated this, the climate debate took a new and important turn. She has communicated the drama and given it a face," Heidi S�rensen said."
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http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1623952.ece
On a side note, anyone here think he should be running for president again? |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:04 am Post subject: |
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Oh, I hope Al Gore doesn't get all the credit, like that American woman did when she won the Nobel Peace prize before she did some work for demining in Africa (many people critical of that decision say that Loyd Axworthy, a Canadian, should have gotten it instead). |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Hollywoodaction wrote: |
Oh, I hope Al Gore doesn't get all the credit, like that American woman did when she won the Nobel Peace prize before she did some work for demining in Africa (many people critical of that decision say that Loyd Axworthy, a Canadian, should have gotten it instead). |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Yeah,
Go Al
(He's my boy. My sister and I talked to him, Bill and Tipper in Strawberry Point in '92. All of them were pretty cool.) |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Pligganease wrote: |
Hollywoodaction wrote: |
Oh, I hope Al Gore doesn't get all the credit, like that American woman did when she won the Nobel Peace prize before she did some work for demining in Africa (many people critical of that decision say that Loyd Axworthy, a Canadian, should have gotten it instead). |
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Why?
"In 1997, Axworthy was nominated by United States Senator Patrick Leahy to receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his work on banning land mines. Many political commentators in Canada believed he was a strong contender for the honour. He did not win, but was thanked by the recipients, the International Campaign to Ban Landmines (and Jody Williams), as having been instrumental in their effort."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Axworthy
He's the guy behind the Ottawa Treaty, for heaven's sake!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Lloyd_Axworthy_open_letter_to_Condoleezza_Rice
Sorry, but Gore shouldn't get the Nobel Prize just because he looks good in a movie.
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:58 am Post subject: |
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First, good for Gore.
Second, the usual distortions: Al Gore is a high-profile American politician who has, for years now, worked hard to bring these issues into the public's consciousness, enjoying at least some measure of success. An Inconvenient Truth only represents a small fraction of his overall work.
Never heard of Lloyd Axworthy before now. Always associated Diana with the landmine issue.
Axworthy is from your country, I see, Hollywoodaction. American-educated, though. Princeton. Formerly politically active. Now President at University of Winnipeg -- hardly the center of the universe. In any case, he does have a career to be proud of. Not many of us will ever attain such prestige as he has.
Still, many automatically associate Gore with environmentalism and at the same time, would have to Google Axworthy if you brought his name up. Gore has increased public awareness on this issue much more effectively than Axworthy could hope to on landmines. So, yes, Gore is more deserving.
By the way, for all your chest-thumping nationalism, and Axworthy being from your country and all, could you at least give the man the dignity he deserves by spelling his name correctly? |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
First, good for Gore.
Second, the usual distortions: Al Gore is a high-profile American politician who has, for years now, worked hard to bring these issues into the public's consciousness, enjoying at least some measure of success.
Never heard of Lloyd Axworthy before now.
He is from your country, I see. American educated, though. Princeton. Formerly politically active. Now President at University of Winnipeg -- hardly the center of the universe. In any case, he does have a career to be proud of. Not many of us will ever attain such prestige as he has.
Still, many automatically associate Gore with environmentalism and at the same time, would have to Google Axworthy if you brought his name up. Gore has increased public awareness on this issue much more than Axworthy could hope to. So, yes, Gore is more deserving.
By the way, for all your chest-thumping nationalism, and Axworthy being from your country and all, could you at least give the man the dignity he deserves by spelling his name correctly? |
Typo, in any case...
One of my friends did some work for the UN, demining in Africa. He told me Lloyd Axworthy ran the show, not the lady that was head of that demining group.
Many associate Gore with environmentalism? I'm sure many more don't. Just making a point that Axworthy's work on demining is no more obscure than Gore's on the environement. Again, Gore should get the Peace Prize just because in a movie and people hate George Bush (face it, Gore getting the Nobel Prize would be a big 'eff you' to Bush). I'm devided on this one. I don't think he's the most deserving nominee, but he might be able to use the prize to get things done.
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:33 am Post subject: |
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(face it, Gore getting the Nobel Prize would be a big 'eff you' to Bush).
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I think that was at least part of the motivation in giving it to Carter. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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News like this makes me ever more convinced that there is no hope for the world.
Gore's an opportunist using his name (as a former VP) and the dislike of Bush to become a public figure once again.
(See the last thread where I wrote about Gore.) |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hollywoodaction wrote: |
(face it, Gore getting the Nobel Prize would be a big 'eff you' to Bush). |
Face it, the Nobel Peace Prize has become more about left-wing, socialist politics than anything even approaching "peace." When the people who select the winners of this used-to-be-respected prize care more about sending a big 'eff you' to Bush than about selecting someone truly deserving (and Gore sure ain't the dude) then its just another liberal circle jerk.
Hollywoodaction wrote: |
I'm devided on this one. I don't think he's the most deserving nominee, but he might be able to use the prize to get things done. |
Like what? Force every nation to sign something as lame as the Kyoto Treaty (or Accord, I don't remember)? |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
News like this makes me ever more convinced that there is no hope for the world.
Gore's an opportunist using his name (as a former VP) and the dislike of Bush to become a public figure once again.
(See the last thread where I wrote about Gore.) |
Oh please, don't you think that's a little simple?
Not like gore nominated himself.
I really think Gore passionately belives in global warming and the work he is doing. So much the better (in his opinion) if it spites Bush and/or makes himself big again.
The nobel committee, however, is becoming more and more of a sham. There is no way Gore should be even nominated for this. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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I agree Gore has done some good (right or wrong on global warming, doesn't matter, me thinks) with his articulation of the world's need to address environmental problems. That said, I do think there are FAR more worthy individuals and I'd just wish that stupid Nobel committee of fat cats would start nominating more "low key" true and strong characters. But if Kissinger the snake got one, why shouldn't Gore get atleast 2?
Axworthy is worthy but that's all. If I had to nominate any Canadian, it'd be Stephen Lewis. Not a finer, more adroit and humane person around. Cream of the crop, creme de la creme. More people should know about him and his foundation and work.
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kalkamagi
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:55 am Post subject: |
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gore did a lot of work on this issue well before his presidential run. (so much so that bush sr. called him "ozone man". see below.) he wound up downplaying his involvement in all of this while running for vp- apparantly it makes you less electable if you focus on such a leftie topic.
anyway, i agree that him receiving the nobel prize will be very political. plus the whole global warming issue has not been resolved last time i checked, so perhaps we should all wait and see the outcome of his work before awarding him anything.
http://www.newyorker.com/printables/talk/060424ta_talk_remnick
In the 1992 campaign against Bill Clinton, George H. W. Bush mocked Gore as �ozone man� and claimed, �This guy is so far out in the environmental extreme we�ll be up to our necks in owls and outta work for every American.� In the 2000 campaign, George W. Bush cracked that Gore �likes electric cars. He just doesn�t like making electricity.� The younger Bush, a classic schoolyard bully with a contempt for intellect, demanded that Gore �explain what he meant by some of the things� in his 1992 book, �Earth in the Balance��and then unashamedly admitted that he had never read it. |
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daskalos
Joined: 19 May 2006 Location: The Road to Ithaca
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: |
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ddeubel wrote: |
I'd just wish that stupid Nobel committee of fat cats would start nominating more "low key" true and strong characters |
Just by the way, anyone can nominate anyone else for any Nobel prize. As I understand it, there is no committee that nominates people, only a committee that looks at the nominations submitted by ... anyone. |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:30 am Post subject: |
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wannago wrote: |
Force every nation to sign something as lame as the Kyoto Treaty (or Accord, I don't remember)? |
That's right wannago, clean air is as lame as K-Fed!
So here's to seeing you sucking on the nearest smoke-stack to show the kids what cool is all about. |
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