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xCustomx
Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: How much OT do you make/month at your public school? |
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| I'm just curious where the range is for picking up additional classes. Do most of the extra classes come during your usual working hours (8:30-4:30 or something similar)? Thanks |
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cmr
Joined: 22 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:19 am Post subject: |
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| My two elementary schools are too small (I guess that's the reason!), so there never was any OT in a year and a half there. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: Re: How much OT do you make/month at your public school? |
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| xCustomx wrote: |
| I'm just curious where the range is for picking up additional classes. Do most of the extra classes come during your usual working hours (8:30-4:30 or something similar)? Thanks |
All my extra classes happen during my 8:40-4:40 shift.
I pick an extra ~500k per month.
There are NO classes after 4:30 for anyone and no classes on the weekends for the foreign teachers.
My co-teacher (foreigner) gets about the same in extra class suplimental pay.
We have the option of banking time for extra holidays or extra pay for teaching the extra classes in the afternoon.
We just got additional funding from the province and are seeking another foreign teacher (level 2). |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:31 am Post subject: |
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| I pick up an extra 480k. |
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xCustomx
Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| How does the contribution leave work? If you work 1 hour of OT you can get 2 hours of paid leave? So if you work 4 hours of OT you can get 1 day of paid vacation? Why would they possibly do this instead of just giving you the OT pay? Maybe I'm missing something |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| xCustomx wrote: |
| How does the contribution leave work? If you work 1 hour of OT you can get 2 hours of paid leave? So if you work 4 hours of OT you can get 1 day of paid vacation? Why would they possibly do this instead of just giving you the OT pay? Maybe I'm missing something |
It's your option... take the cash or bank the time and take extra holidays for travel or whatever.
For example, if you are working 4 extra classes per week for a 10 week semester of the after school program you can get an extra 2 calendar weeks of holiday (10 work days).
Add it all up over the year...
14 work days regular holiday (3 calendar weeks)
10 work days for spring semester (2 calendar weeks)
10 work days for fall semester (2 calendar weeks)
2 calendar weeks between contracts (with pay) if you renew.
It can work out to 9 weeks of paid holidays per year.
Why would they do it... because for a public school teacher, our NORMAL work day is 8 hours long and we teach an average of 4.5 classes per workday (22 classes in 5 days).
Many of us have lots of idle time during the summer and winter breaks. They can let us go (holidays were a major point in their difficulty meeting recruitment targets) instead of warming a chair with nothing to do except play games and web surf.
In letting us bank time instead of overtime pay they can save 3 million won per year in overtime payments PER foreigner. Provincially that adds up to a lot of money. |
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Sash
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Location: farmland
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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ttompatz and Kimchieluver,
How many classes total per DAY or WEEK do you have to work (during the school year) to pick up the extra 480-500K? |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| Sash wrote: |
ttompatz and Kimchieluver,
How many classes total per DAY or WEEK do you have to work (during the school year) to pick up the extra 480-500K? |
My standard is 22 classes of 40 minutes duration for my base pay.
I get 20k per each additional 40 minute class. Last semester I was working 28 classes per week for 3 mil as a level 1.
My co-worker made about 2.7 as a level 2 working 28 classes (40 minutes) per week and 12 hours for prep and research (he got his tesol cert during this time).
We are in the school from 8:40-4:40 daily. All our classes are within this time frame.
We also get all the other usual benefits (housing, medical, pension, etc).
We ALSO got a total of 4 weeks paid holidays for our summer and winter vacations. |
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Sash
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Location: farmland
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| You are really lucky. How do you get that type of vacation? Aren't PS holidays standard? (standard contract) |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Sash wrote: |
| You are really lucky. How do you get that type of vacation? Aren't PS holidays standard? (standard contract) |
14 WORKING days is the standard. (article 12 of the 2007 GEPIK contract).
We are at a designated "rural" school although we actually live in Bundang (individual 19py officetels about 200 meters from Seoyhun station) and have a 20 minute commute in the morning. The school provides transportation to/from work.
Because it is a "RURAL" school we get an additional 5 working days for holiday. (article 11 subsection 2)
The school allows "as per the suggestion on the provincial FAQ page" an additional day for cultural leave". Total official holidays = 20 working days = 2 calendar weeks summer and 2 calendar weeks winter holiday.
Additionally we can bank some or all of our overtime and take more time off in lieu if we desire more holiday time instead of money.
Where else can someone fresh out of college and little or no experience get a job with 6 weeks paid holiday? Sure as hell not at home. I'm staying here.
For the record, I have re-signed. My co-worker did not. He got a uni position with even MORE holiday time and so he will need to be replaced for the March start of term. |
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xCustomx
Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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What exactly qualifies as rural? I live very close to Seohyun as well but will have to take a 30 minute bus ride to Yongin for the middle school I'll be working at.
Ttompatz, your job seems pretty sweet and makes me regret signing on at my school. |
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Sash
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
Location: farmland
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm also wondering how you know if your school qualifies as rural. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Sash wrote: |
| I'm also wondering how you know if your school qualifies as rural. |
I don't have a real answer, just what I think. The district office or provincial office would have a list but I have no idea how to access it.
I imagine, to be designated rural your school would have an address:
aaa-si, aaa-eup, aaa-ri
and NOT
bbb-si, bbb-gu, bbb-dong. |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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My first year at my public school, I got about 400,000 won for doing extra classes outside of my normal working hours.
But this year, they put the extra classes during my normal working hours, trying to save money I guess.
ilovebdt |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Only 1 session of 30 classes thus far(6 months in).
Usually a bit drawn out.Haven't been paid for the last lot yet(finished in December) |
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