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[thepeel]

That talentless rock-poseur Bono, who spends his free time traveling around the world trying to convince governments to donate (stolen) tax-revenue to his pet projects hides his money in tax shelters.

[Nowhere Man]

[thepeel]

Income taxes, yes. How aren't income taxes stealing?

[Ya-ta Boy]

[Gopher]

My delayed contribution to Mithridates's reverse day...

Do national governments, religions, and the powers-that be steal from the people through "taxes" and lies...?

[Nowhere Man]

No, they're taxes.

I mean I'd love to live without a police force, fire dept., and hospital, but...

I see them as essential as of the moment.

And if income tax is stealing, then so is every other kind of tax, just in a different sort of way.

It's a part of the division of labor. We all get ahead by specializing.

I suppose you could have no income tax and instead heavier taxes on other things, but diversifying taxes spreads out the burden.

Is the current tax spread fair?

Well, that's another story.

How the tax money is spent is indeed another other story.

But unless you're the Swiss Family Robinson, you're living within a system.

Someone has to pay for the roads you drive on and the fiber-optic cable you use to talk here. You pay dues to be in the club of civilization.

So, no. I don't see income tax as stealing. Doesn't mean I like it. And, I'd love if I could prevent my tax money being spent on wars I don't support. Just so happens I do so by living abroad.

[thepeel]

That doesn't make the ethical. "Elected" types, who are typically nothing more than idiot thugs with a quest for power, do immoral and irrational things every day. I believe that a majority of your "elected representatives" voted for the war in iraq. Shall we use that as a measure of if the war was just?

[thepeel]

Income taxes demand that the state owns your body, and your productive abilities. If you were free, you would be able to say no. It is blatantly oppressive that the state takes tribute off of every financial transaction we make. Tony Soprano and the Canadian government are exactly the same. The both use the threat of violence to extract tribute from honest citizens for "services" they 1) don't need or 2) could get better and cheaper on the open market.

If we "need" things like police (which has become a domestic, oppressive military. Nothing more than thugs who belong to the largest gang in any country running around in the swat teams playing war on honest citizens.) the state can use sales taxes upon non-essential goods to finance them.

And by the by, the state building roads all over the damn place is the single largest contributer to urban sprawl, and thus a major amount of CO2 emissions. Anyway, the roads that the state does build can be tolled.

This is an interesting video on the subject.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsZO6G7dfpI[/url]

Between interest, inflation and taxes, (which constitute the largest expense of virtually all citizens) very little of what we produce is left for us. It is a big scam.

[Wangja]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[thepeel]

[Nowhere Man]

OK. I watched the video.

My opinion after watching: There may be a loophole to avoid income tax.

That's what I got from it.

My questions are:

A) What part of the Constitution is being violated?

and

B) I believe countries around the world have income tax, not just the USA. So, how does singling out Bono, who's Irish, come into play with American tax law?

And C) If, ultimately, people around the world pay income tax, then this is just a lot of hubbub.

I don't see a human rights abuse in income tax.

And I don't see it as off-limits for a government to declare one.

I mean, it's great that there didn't used to be one, but all of that claptrap about how it's spent is simply a criticism of the government, and a fairly weak one at that.

Roads are covered by another tax? Fine.

Income tax is spent on the war? I don't like that, but all that means is that the government can take the funding for roads and spend it on the war and use income tax for something else.

The money all goes into a big pool.

The key would be to avoid the war altogether.

But I digress. Do you pay income tax in Korea? Is it stealing if it's not covered by the US Constitution?

[Hater Depot]

[jinju]

I see no hypocrisy.
He is sheltering his money from a government that would most likely use it for wars, lining their own greedy corrupt pockets and those of their friends and a thousand other wasteful purposes. Im sure he feels he can do a better job managing and putting itt o good use than some beurocrat in government.

Governments should have as little of our money as possible. They cant be trusted with it.

[thepeel]

Jinju, I agree with you. But, if he was consistent, he would advocate for governments to reduce their taxes to a fraction of what they are now and at the same time encourage individuals to donate their (now greatly increased income) to various private charities.

Instead, he hides his money from his government and encourages my government to spend more of mine.

nowhereman, I not really interested in the legal stuff regarding the income tax but more that it is a bad tax. Nothing is good about the income tax.
Also, other states having income tax does not mean that America (or my home, Canada) have to follow. And, our income taxes are bloody absurd. The whole system is a scam.