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Thunndarr
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 Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: The sky, it turns out, isn't falling! |
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Tentative 'deal struck' over N. Korean nukes
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BEIJING, China (CNN) -- North Korea has tentatively agreed to close down its nuclear weapons program in exchange for energy aid, U.S. and Chinese officials said Tuesday.
But the proposed deal was being reviewed by officials in the negotiators' capitals before becoming final.
Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill, the lead American official at the talks, said the United States will give an unspecified amount of energy assistance to North Korea in exchange for North Korea freezing its production of plutonium. (Watch what North Korea is demanding Video)
Hill said negotiators are running the agreement by their capitals and would reconvene later Tuesday.
"We feel it's an excellent, excellent draft," Hill said. "I don't think we are the problem."
The United States, China, South Korea, Japan and Russia have been holding talks with North Korean officials since 2002 in an effort to convince Pyongyang to give up its nuclear weapons program. (Read full story)
But the talks have been stalled for two years, and North Korea tested a low-yield nuclear weapon October 9.
North Korea became subject to a raft of UN sanctions, including an embargo on the sale of nuclear technology and large-scale weapons.
The U.S. government published a list of luxury goods it is also banning from sale to the reclusive east Asian nation, including cigars, plasma televisions, beer, iPods, Rolex watches and diamonds - presumed a blow to North Korean leader Kim Jong Il who reportedly loves living luxuriously. (Read full story)
More negotiation ahead
The latest round of talks stretched into the early morning hours Tuesday, and Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang said negotiators would resume discussions later in the day.
"All parties had made their utmost efforts, and some positive progress has been made," Qin said. "But we still have to make further consultation discussions so as to confirm all the progress we have been made."
Hill said the talks would resume at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday (9:30 p.m. Monday ET).
In September 2005, North Korea committed to abandoning its nuclear program in exchange for aid and security guarantees. Pyongyang walked away from the talks weeks later to protest a U.S. crackdown on banks suspected of helping North Korea with illegal financial activities.
But in December, Hill announced that the North appeared ready to discuss specific steps toward ending its nuclear program.
Tuesday, he told reporters that the United States and its allies "have put everything on the table," and it was time for North Korea to make a decision.
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jinju
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Let's wait and see... |
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Sincinnatislink
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Wait, so they're asking for energy and assurance of security?
But . . .
But . . .
That's what nuclear reactors do!
That means they weren't planning world domination.
I hate it when power-mad dictators do reasonable things. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
Wait, so they're asking for energy and assurance of security?
But . . .
But . . .
That's what nuclear reactors do!
That means they weren't planning world domination.
I hate it when power-mad dictators do reasonable things. |
Moron. Do you know the capacity of their operational reactor at Yongbyeon. It wouldnt even power a couple city blocks. Um, yeah, yet another thing you need to find out. I guess we have to excuse you as you are in North America totally ignorant of facts. Any facts. On any subject.
You then draw some kind of conclusion from thin air.
Let's see. They broke a deal, made enough plutinium and perhaps uranium for close to 10 nukes, and are now ready to cash in. The mere act of cashing in doesnt really prove anything because we still dont know their intentions. hell, we really have real reasons to doubt that they will even stick to the deal.
But hey, looky here, you did come out and defend North Korea. You realy are as dumb as your avatar looks. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
Wait, so they're asking for energy and assurance of security?
But . . .
But . . .
That's what nuclear reactors do!
That means they weren't planning world domination.
I hate it when power-mad dictators do reasonable things. |
Haven't been following this very closely, eh? Extortion is the game KJI is playing. The Americans are finally willing (again) to play along. |
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Sincinnatislink
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| So I presume the first US attempts at nuclear power were gigantic reactors? |
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Sincinnatislink
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't defend North Korea, and I don't see evidence I have not been following current events.
Enlighten me rather than gloat, please? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
| So I presume the first US attempts at nuclear power were gigantic reactors? |
I bet this thread hits 10 pages.
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dulouz
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Yea, they signatures aren't worth anything. They'll lie about this and then even now they are developing a new extortion technique. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
Wait, so they're asking for energy and assurance of security?
But . . .
But . . .
That's what nuclear reactors do!
That means they weren't planning world domination.
I hate it when power-mad dictators do reasonable things. |
Haven't been following this very closely, eh? Extortion is the game KJI is playing. The Americans are finally willing (again) to play along. |
Which is unfortunate. I hooped for a while that this administration would strangle the DPRK to death. I guess we now have a new deal the Norks will break. And yeah, they will break it because as you say extortion is a game they play but what you should have said is that extortion is the ONLY game they can play. Its a failed state on every level and extortion is all they have. |
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Sincinnatislink
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
| So I presume the first US attempts at nuclear power were gigantic reactors? |
I bet this thread hits 10 pages. |
I bet nine of it is character assassination. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
| So I presume the first US attempts at nuclear power were gigantic reactors? |
No, but the capacity of Yongnyeon is such that it literally wouldnt power a town. It has NO PRACTICAL uses other than production of material for weapons. The fact is that you come into these threads with a serious lack of knowledge and spout stupidities. Go finish school. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
| BJWD wrote: |
| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
| So I presume the first US attempts at nuclear power were gigantic reactors? |
I bet this thread hits 10 pages. |
I bet nine of it is character assassination. |
Well, I would guess 6 pages of you asking silly questions that you think are clever and ironic and 2 pages of us answering them and a further 2 of us pointing out how obviously still in your undergrad you are. |
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Sincinnatislink
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I bet none of this has anything to do w/ the op. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
| BJWD wrote: |
| Sincinnatislink wrote: |
| So I presume the first US attempts at nuclear power were gigantic reactors? |
I bet this thread hits 10 pages. |
I bet nine of it is character assassination. |
welcome to the current events forum. |
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