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Adventurer
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 Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: Utah killer survived Bosnia war |
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Last Updated: Thursday, 15 February 2007, 14:47 GMT
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Utah killer 'survived Bosnia war'
Police shot Talovic dead after he went on a killing spree
A Bosnian immigrant who went on a shooting spree in Salt Lake City may have been affected by childhood war experiences, friends and family say.
Sulejman Talovic, 18, was shot dead by police after he had killed five people and wounded four on Monday.
As a small boy, he fled his besieged village and briefly took refuge in Srebrenica, two years before 8,000 Muslims were massacred there.
He lived as a refugee for five years before moving to the US, friends say.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6364677.stm |
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contrarian
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| So what? He was given haven in the US and a home in Utah. His refugee years were relatively short and a long time ago. The only saving grace is that the sick little terrorist was killed. It saves a trial and a lot of navel gazing. The ironic thing is that this happened the day after the Utah State Senate passed a resolution asking for tolerance of Muslims. |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| contrarian wrote: |
| So what? He was given haven in the US and a home in Utah. His refugee years were relatively short and a long time ago. The only saving grace is that the sick little terrorist was killed. It saves a trial and a lot of navel gazing. The ironic thing is that this happened the day after the Utah State Senate passed a resolution asking for tolerance of Muslims. |
Many Bosnians drink hard liquor as if it's water, so let us not go into this Muslim tolerance resolution thing. I remember when I was three years old when my neighbour's house got burned. I was living in Virginia at the time. If I can remember as far as back age 3, what about the fellow? You are saying it was a long time. He was 18 years old. I would suspect he was born in 1988. The massacre in question happened in 1995. That means he was around 7 years old. Give us a lecture about how it is not a big deal since it happened 11 years ago when he was 7.
Of course, he deserved to get shot and killed for killing innocent Americans, but putting the killing and connecting it to his parents' religion makes no sense. The way he killed anyway reminds me more of what a Euro-American assasin terrorist would do rather than a Muslim. No religious group claimed responsibility. It was simple terrorism. |
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postfundie
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| Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| I do remember Chomsky putting the words Srebrenica massacre in quotes..... |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| postfundie wrote: |
| I do remember Chomsky putting the words Srebrenica massacre in quotes..... |
You remember incorrectly. Noam Avram Chomsky believes a massacre did take place, and I actually knew a Canadian whose father served in Bosnia. He was more than upset about what happened down there.
It was evident from the electronic version that t was a scurrilous piece of journalism. That�s clear even from internal evidence. The reporter obviously had a definite agenda: to focus the defamation exercise on my denial of the Srebrenica massacre. From the character of what appeared, it is not easy to doubt that she was assigned this task. When I wouldn�t go along, she simply invented the denial, repeatedly, along with others. The centerpiece of the interview was this, describing my alleged views, in particular, that:
Here is what was claimed Chomsky said and below is his reply to that claim regarding what he allegedly said.
....during the Bosnian war the �massacre� at Srebrenica was probably overstated. (Chomsky uses quotations marks to undermine things he disagrees with and, in print at least, it can come across less as academic than as witheringly teenage; like, Srebrenica was so not a massacre.)
Transparently, neither I nor anyone speaks with quotation marks, so the reference to my claim that �Srebrenica was so not a massacre,� shown by my using the term �massacre� in quotes, must be in print � hence �witheringly teenage,� as well as disgraceful. That raises the obvious question: where is it in print, or anywhere? I know from letters that were sent to me that a great many journalists and others asked the author of the interview and the relevant editors to provide the source, and were met by stony silence � for a simple reason: it does not exist, and they know it. Furthermore, as Media Lens pointed out, with five minutes research on the internet, any journalist could find many places where I described the massacre as a massacre, never with quotes. That alone ends the story. I will skip the rest, which also collapses quickly.
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=21&ItemID=9110 |
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