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Zundel abandons fight to stay in Canada

Fri Feb 25, 6:30 PM ET
COLIN PERKEL

TORONTO (CP) - Notorious Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel has abandoned his fight to stay in Canada and is slated to be deported to Germany as early as Tuesday, his lawyer said Friday.

In a bitter denunciation of the Canadian legal system, lawyer Peter Lindsay said there was no point in trying to remedy the "horrible unfairness" to which Zundel had been subjected.

"He won't be asking for a stay," Lindsay told The Canadian Press.

"This is an unfair process. Everyone has turned their backs on him."

Lindsay said authorities had told him they were not prepared to wait to see if the Supreme Court of Canada would hear his allegation of judicial bias or rule on the constitutionality of Canada's anti-terrorism laws.

An Immigration spokesman said they planned to deport Zundel as soon as possible.

"He's in a position now where we can legally remove him and that's our intention," Doug Kellam of the Canadian Border Services Agency said Friday

Lindsay had said earlier that he did not expect the deportation to happen for at least another week or two so he would have the opportunity to seek a stay of removal pending the high court decisions.

But the situation appeared hopeless, especially because no one appears interested in protecting the rights of unpopular people, he said later.

"Probably no one cares because Mr. Ernst Zundel is notorious and reviled," Lindsay said.

"We should care. But ... most of us don't give a damn."

Zundel, 65, faces immediate prosecution on his return to his native Germany, where he is wanted for running afoul of German laws against denying the Holocaust.

"He will be picked up immediately and then arrested," a German official who requested anonymity said Friday.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1845&ncid=1845&e=2&u=/cpress/20050226/ca_pr_on_na/zundel_deportation

Yu_Bum_suk · Joined: 25 Dec 2004

Sorry, I've forgotten most of the details and can't be arsed to research it again - did he lie on his immigration papers when he arrived? If so, they have every right to deport him. If not, and he's just a loudmouth with some stupid views, let him live in obscurity somewhere and don't give him any more attention.

Hollywoodaction · Joined: 02 Jul 2004

I read somewhere that he used to speak in unaccented Canadian English, but that his "German" accent returned when he started parading around with a hard hat on his head. Rolling Eyes

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

The poll for this thread isn't very accurate; there is no option to vote for-
"Hell yes! And make him swim back too."

Cthulhu · Joined: 02 Feb 2003

The reason he's being deported is because he is considered a threat to national security which, if the nature of this threat were explained by either the immigration or justice system, things might be put to rest. Aparently it is based on his links with neo-Nazis, though that's a pretty broad statement. The authorities don't want to explain or get into the details of his being a threat any further than that.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/02/25/zundel-050225.html

Considering how far out of the limelight he's fallen--he received most attention from his antics in the 80s--I have to wonder how he could be more dangerous now and in what way is he a threat. The guy is a fruit-loop supporting a cause for pinheads, but that alone shouldn't be enough to deem him a security risk.

As Yu_Bum_suk says, let him fade away--he's been getting more attention from legal fights these days than from anything he's said or done.

Bulsajo · Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Everyone's so busy running about finding muslim terrorists they've forgotten that people like Timothy McVeigh and Ted Kazinsky still exist. Zundel has ties to white-power extremists- send him packing.

Cthulhu · Joined: 02 Feb 2003

I certainly wouldn't shed a tear if he ends up being booted out. I'm just concerned with the process that was used to do it.

Teufelswacht · Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right

It appears Canada has given the white power extremists-nut jobs their very own "martyr" (sp?) for the cause. And now Germany will give the loonie tunes over there their own martyr when they arrest and most assuredly convict this guy for what he believes/wrote.

igotthisguitar · Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject:

igotthisguitar · Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject:

Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel deported to Germany
Tuesday, Mar 01, 2005

TORONTO (CP) - Infamous Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel ended more than four decades in Canada on Tuesday when he was deported to Germany and handed to authorities who want to prosecute him for spreading hate.

Branded by a Federal Court judge as a risk to national security, Zundel was taken before daybreak from the jail where he had been held in solitary confinement for two years and escorted onto a plane to Frankfurt.

"He has been turned over to German authorities," Alex Swann, spokesman for Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan, told The Canadian Press. "This is a significant step. The process has worked."

German police took him to the southwestern city of Mannheim, where he was to spend his first night back in his homeland in police custody, local police spokesman Elmar Ludwig said. His arraignment was set for Wednesday.

Jewish groups were ecstatic.

http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=news_home&articleID=1859217

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=zundel+deported

http://news.google.com/news?q=ernst+zundel&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tab=wn&ie=ISO-8859-1&scoring=d

Yu_Bum_suk · Joined: 25 Dec 2004

Just how is this elderly moron a threat to our national security? There are rapists who get a lot less punishment than this.

igotthisguitar · Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject:

gmat · Joined: 29 Jan 2003

I agree with Igotthisguitar Shocked

Maybe I will have to rethink this. Wink

This is a shocking example of a state's abuse of power. But where are all the Canadian drones who yell and scream about the US "Patriot Act". Oh right, only the evil US government abuses power. Carry on.

ersatzprofessor · Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:54 am Post subject:

igotthisguitar · Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:23 am Post subject:

After 3 Months In German Prison - Still No Charges

http://www.rense.com/general65/Ernstafter3months.htm

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