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Bondrock



Joined: 08 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: confusing bored with boring Reply with quote

many ESL students confuse the word bored with the word boring...
a recent poll shows that many professional teachers are equally bored and boring...


http://tinyurl.com/2hylhe


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some also confuse annoy with annoying....


PS: zombo inspired this post...
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bored is the feeling. Boring is what makes the feeling.

Unless there was no real point to this thread.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach that people become bored (I'm bored, she is bored) and things are boring (the soccer game was boring, the movie was boring). People can be boring too, but that's a very insulting thing to say. By contrast, things like soccer games and movies cannot become bored.

When ever I've asked a Korean whether 심심하다 and 지루하다 are distinct like 'bored' and 'boring' in English, they've said no. Dictionaries, however, reveal that 지루하다 is like 'boring' above. See http://endic.naver.com/endic.nhn?docid=2757420&rd=s .
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Hi, I am Ed and I'm a feeling inside of you." I then shake the student's hand, write my name "ed" on the board then put down a bunch of words and ask if I - ed - am inside of the student or not.

bored, boring
tired, tiring
worried, worrying
scared, scary
(frightened, frightening)
(terrified, terrifying)
(annoyed, annoying)
(encouraged, encouraging)
(confused, confusing)
etc

(some classes meet "Ing" who is not in you and is very pushy, making you feel)
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swetepete



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It happens a lot with 'fun-funny' as well.
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe their teachers could teach active and passive voice.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swetepete, fun-funny has a very different grammar.

diver wrote:
Maybe their teachers could teach active and passive voice.

wa? That is worrying, confusing and boring. I am worried, confused and bored.

Excuse me.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

swetepete wrote:
It happens a lot with 'fun-funny' as well.


Yes, what a f**ker. 재미있는 is responsible for this I feel, which seems to be a blurry 'fun/amusing'.

I tell folks that fun is 재미 like an 'amusement park' and 'funny' is 웃기는 - to arouse laughter. They appreciate the distinction then.

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Maybe their teachers could teach active and passive voice.


To teach the meanings of adjectives? Laughing
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:

diver wrote:
Maybe their teachers could teach active and passive voice.


To teach the meanings of adjectives? Laughing


Yes, absolutely. Adjectives which mirror the present participle (ending in "ing") are active adjectives. They describe something which is doing something. "This movie is boring" explains what the movie is doing -- it bores me.

Adjectives which mirror the past participle (ending in "ed") are passive adjectives. They explain how someone or something was affected by something. "I got bored while watching the movie" explains how I was affected by the movie, just like a passive sentence.

Diver's suggestion is a good one. I always use active and passive when explaining these types of adjectives.
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