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CIA Web Site Makes New Mistakes on Korea
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: CIA Web Site Makes New Mistakes on Korea Reply with quote

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/200702/kt2007021918253111790.htm

This part amused me:

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The errors have angered domestic civic groups and citizens.

"The miscue is very grave. It's an insult to Korea. What if we call U.S. President George W. Bush, George W. Bushman? Then, how would the U.S. government respond?'' a Seoul resident, who wanted to remain anonymous, said.


Well, ignore for a moment that Korean news casters universally call him "Bushy", if a Korean government site mistakenly called him Bushman, I suspect .01% of the American population would feel anger. I think most Americans would have a brief chuckle and move on.

Can these people be less thin skinned? I remember the front page of the Korea Herald had a photo of various world leaders. They listed all their names save for Jean Chr�tien. He was labeled as "the man on the right is unidentified".

The crux of their actual complaint:

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"In June 2000, a historic first North-South summit took place between the South's President KIM Tae-chung and the North's leader KIM Jong Il,'' it said.


So Tae-chung and not Dae Jung. In other words, they're still using the non-Korean hangul-to-romanization system?
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Zolt



Joined: 18 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: CIA Web Site Makes New Mistakes on Korea Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:


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"In June 2000, a historic first North-South summit took place between the South's President KIM Tae-chung and the North's leader KIM Jong Il,'' it said.


So Tae-chung and not Dae Jung. In other words, they're still using the non-Korean hangul-to-romanization system?


Consistency: if using the same romanization system, should have been either Kim Dae-jung and Kim Jong-il, or Kim tae-chung and Kim Cheong-il.

That said, bravo CIA for managing to piss off the bloody VANKers again.
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's outrageous! This is an open declaration of war on our homeland!!!
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bixlerscott



Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sure have noticed that alot said about Korea from many sources is a mistake. Lots of errors abound. Lots is not document neither or it's incomplete. This is a great big grey area still yet, unless we are talking about Seoul since documentation and all info is Seoul centric in nature.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: CIA Web Site Makes New Mistakes on Korea Reply with quote

Zolt wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:


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"In June 2000, a historic first North-South summit took place between the South's President KIM Tae-chung and the North's leader KIM Jong Il,'' it said.


So Tae-chung and not Dae Jung. In other words, they're still using the non-Korean hangul-to-romanization system?


Consistency: if using the same romanization system, should have been either Kim Dae-jung and Kim Jong-il, or Kim tae-chung and Kim Cheong-il.

That said, bravo CIA for managing to piss off the bloody VANKers again.


Indeed it's a perceived consistency problem. I'm sure the CIA isn't 100% aware the South Koreans imposed a new system. It's like the first president of Korea is still mostly known by history as Syngman Rhee although his Korean name is "이승만" and the current system would have him as "Ri Seungman". To history Kim Dae Jung is still Tae-Chung.
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: CIA Web Site Makes New Mistakes on Korea Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Can these people be less thin skinned?


Less? Confused Certainly. But it's hard to imagine them being more thin-skinned.


Anyway,

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Grimalkin



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then, how would the U.S. government respond?'' a Seoul resident, who wanted to remain anonymous, said.



...probably on his way to the American embassy looking for a green card!
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: CIA Web Site Makes New Mistakes on Korea Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:



Thats great the way it says "Go To Out", that's the prettiest grammatical error I've seen since last time I walked down the street.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Re: CIA Web Site Makes New Mistakes on Korea Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
Can these people be less thin skinned?


Less? Confused Certainly. But it's hard to imagine them being more thin-skinned.


It's my wish Koreans would be less thin skinned.
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Zolt



Joined: 18 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Re: CIA Web Site Makes New Mistakes on Korea Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
Can these people be less thin skinned?


Less? Confused Certainly. But it's hard to imagine them being more thin-skinned.


It's my wish Koreans would be less thin skinned.


Some times it's beyond thin skinned... they can be so sensitive you'd think they'd been flayed and then rolled in salt and lemon juice.

Then again try saying anything about my home country...
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: CIA Web Site Makes New Mistakes on Korea Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
I'm sure the CIA isn't 100% aware the South Koreans imposed a new system.


Probably not. Check out their map.



Taegu, Pusan, Inch'on, Cheju-do, etc. Rolling Eyes I hope someone's paying a little closer attention to North Korea.

Notice Liancourt Rocks - that's Dokdo. Labelled in black, as if to indicate part of Korea. Now check the map of Japan.



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Zoot



Joined: 12 Jul 2005
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In addition, the CIA Factbook continues to use Japanese names for ``Sea of Japan'' on a map of South Korea instead of ``East Sea'' despite the country's request for it to be changed.


http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/200702/kt2007021918253111790.htm

My kids are always talking about this. I referred to it as the Sea of Japan and they freaked out. Come on, kids. No one is going to know what the East Sea is when you talk to someone outside your own culture. Get used to it. EVERYONE BUT YOU calls it the Sea of Japan. Unless you WANNA look like an idiot or be misunderstood, sometime in the future... Go ahead, call it the Donghae in Korean but learn and accept that other people call it something else.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well at least the CIA has their facts straighter than the USFK. Either that or the yankee strike forces are always on vacation whenever I'm in Hongdae.
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Hollywoodaction



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if you dig deep enough, you will find errors on the internet about every topic in every possible language. VANK is a propaganda machine, pure and simple. Case in point: I have yet to see a story about VANK complaining about websites that are not American, Japanese, or Chinese.
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm proposing setting up a group called Voluntary Agency for the Prevention Of the Misuse of the English Language, or VAPOMEL, which will work with VANK on a tit for tat basis
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