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Alpha-Epsilon
Joined: 24 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: The Word is Out That Korea is Inferior |
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Here, in Taiwan, the word is out. Working in Korea is inferior. The differences between Taiwan and Korea range from bad employers to less freedom to worse apartments, and this on Korea's part. Some even say severance pay is a ploy.
I'm here in Taiwan, however, destined to speak up. For the expat community disparages Korea, not wanting to look at the benefits I've experienced there, whereas I've not found any in Taiwan at all. Yet what I'd said above is true, ie, more freedom, better apartments, and better employers(though I've run into some real jerks.) So the majority of expats here seem to be satisfied with working in Taiwan, making me wonder if they're right. Is Taiwan a better option?
The package deal, folks, is just not the same. The treatment is more harsh, since you're constantly scrutinized. The work is more, for less pay. You have to correct homework, administer tests, give tele-tests, record grades; you even have to calculate your hours at the end of the month, besides from punching in everyday.
As for treatment, you can't expect the security you find in Korea. The odds are always against you, the co-workers conniving. Daily life is more of a challenge, since you aren't given an apartment, have to buy furniture, must do everything on your own. But like I said, the word is out Korea is inferior.
So, are these people crazy, those that prefer Taiwan and think working in Korea is inferior? Or is there a psychological term I can use to define their reasoning? What do you all think? Would you work in a country that doesn't offer you the incentives Korea does?
Come on guys, you've got it good there. Now's the time to speak up, because you have to prove to Taiwan that there's something better out there. Or isn't there?
That's been my conclusion about the whole matter. No matter how much I had to put up with there in Korea, I always had job security and was treated much more kindly.
If anyone in Korea's been to Taiwan, it'd be nice if you'd comment. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| Is this the first post you've made where you weren't on mushrooms? Congrats. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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ask rapier
He left awful Korea for the better land of Taiwan and months later came hightailing back singing the praises of the land of the morning calm before the orange-selling trucks. |
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Cohiba

Joined: 01 Feb 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: Taiwan |
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Whose word you idiot? |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| Release the ajummas............ |
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andy202

Joined: 28 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Awwwwwwwwwww.....!
I was going to try Taiwan next but now he's saying it's fraught with different but similar problems and irritations.
*beep* on my bullsh1t dreams why don't you big guy.
Think I will google TEFL Iceland. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: Re: Taiwan |
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| Cohiba wrote: |
Whose word you idiot? |
Making hasty conclusions and kicking someone who's down is the mark of a low class or classless person. Are you better than this?
Leave the O.P. alone and grow up for Christ's sake. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| rothkowitz wrote: |
| Release the ajummas............ |
This is kind of cute but you still have to be punished for making light of the O.P.'s less-than-desirable situation.
"Norton: When Rothkowitz bends ovah, start pushing!" |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: Re: Taiwan |
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| Roch wrote: |
| Cohiba wrote: |
Whose word you idiot? |
Making hasty conclusions and kicking someone who's down is the mark of a low class or classless person. Are you better than this?
Leave the O.P. alone and grow up for Christ's sake. |
click on the OP's name and then click that "read all posts" button and read some of his previous work. it's pretty amazing. seriously. the guy has done nothing but insult this entire board in a bizarre, arcane fashion from day one. and he's so arrogant that he never posts replies to other posts, he only posts new topics. apparently because his ideas are so outstandingly stupid that they each warrant their own thread.
I don't know what he's like in real life, but on this board he's been an idiot. So I, for one, am totally laughing at his misfortune (cue laughter). |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:01 am Post subject: |
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well, i stand corrected, he has actually replied to some posts recently
I miss his old days when he would say stuff like
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It's funny to realize the sham of it all. You'd think there'd be some dignity amongst some of you, that some would stand up for who they are, or were. You know what I'm talking about.
Those here. They want to play both sides of the fence while in Korea. A lot probably've come from the remote parts of the Western countries like Newfoundland, Alberta, Texas and NewZealand. It depicts their mentality. They can't but cover up the fact they're ignorant by pretending to be something, or someone, which Korea is apt to give them. This they then show off by being something, supposedly an english teacher, which to them is a great leap forward and uranus step upward. It's funny now to think of these delusions Korea presents, and presented.
Because Korea and this forum think they're in the center of the world, or that they're really cosmopolitan. But outside, it represents nothing, and is no where. You're spitting in the rice over there. Plenty of surplus. Your moans and whines and cries indeed are real, except what isn't is the pretentious ploy you've developed towards believing you're of some importance, which a lot on this board and in Korea, as foreigners, have displayed.
Check it out newbie, you'll see. The idea that they're something makes you seem like nothing. They actually believe this. It has to do with the fact a lot of them come from, well, countries or part of the country from wherever they're from that are of little influence and importance, thereby throwing them into severe cultural shock since Korea gives them this delusion they are, and aren't.
They make them think they aren't because of Korea's nationalism and ethnocentrism, and then some. Those that teach there then develop a complex, even to the point of becoming pseudo-sophisticated.
It's a bunch of rubbish.
Americans have dignity. Anyone with some dignity would stand up for who they were without playing the game both here and as one stripped of their own national and self-identity. This they have to do by not sucking up, which a lot that've been there a long time have either done in two ways which they will cover up to deceive you, newbie.
They get hitched for a free ride.
They pretend they're someone, somewhere, somehow supposed to be so-professionally pseudo-sophisticated on the only place they can find someone to hear them.
Dave's ESL Cafe. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
well, i stand corrected, he has actually replied to some posts recently
I miss his old days when he would say stuff like
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It's funny to realize the sham of it all. You'd think there'd be some dignity amongst some of you, that some would stand up for who they are, or were. You know what I'm talking about.
Those here. They want to play both sides of the fence while in Korea. A lot probably've come from the remote parts of the Western countries like Newfoundland, Alberta, Texas and NewZealand. It depicts their mentality. They can't but cover up the fact they're ignorant by pretending to be something, or someone, which Korea is apt to give them. This they then show off by being something, supposedly an english teacher, which to them is a great leap forward and uranus step upward. It's funny now to think of these delusions Korea presents, and presented.
Because Korea and this forum think they're in the center of the world, or that they're really cosmopolitan. But outside, it represents nothing, and is no where. You're spitting in the rice over there. Plenty of surplus. Your moans and whines and cries indeed are real, except what isn't is the pretentious ploy you've developed towards believing you're of some importance, which a lot on this board and in Korea, as foreigners, have displayed.
Check it out newbie, you'll see. The idea that they're something makes you seem like nothing. They actually believe this. It has to do with the fact a lot of them come from, well, countries or part of the country from wherever they're from that are of little influence and importance, thereby throwing them into severe cultural shock since Korea gives them this delusion they are, and aren't.
They make them think they aren't because of Korea's nationalism and ethnocentrism, and then some. Those that teach there then develop a complex, even to the point of becoming pseudo-sophisticated.
It's a bunch of rubbish.
Americans have dignity. Anyone with some dignity would stand up for who they were without playing the game both here and as one stripped of their own national and self-identity. This they have to do by not sucking up, which a lot that've been there a long time have either done in two ways which they will cover up to deceive you, newbie.
They get hitched for a free ride.
They pretend they're someone, somewhere, somehow supposed to be so-professionally pseudo-sophisticated on the only place they can find someone to hear them.
Dave's ESL Cafe. |
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Tar and feather him! Jongro Guro: Get the tar! Jinju, get the feathers!
Roch, let's blow this soju stand! |
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Corky

Joined: 06 Jan 2004
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| Although I commend you on your improved usage of the comma, Alpha-Epsilon, further study is recommended. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| Corky wrote: |
| Although I commend you on your improved usage of the comma, Alpha-Epsilon, further study is recommended. |
Me, too, eh?
Taiwan is shite compared to Korea. Opey Dopey is right about that, eh. |
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Alpha-Epsilon
Joined: 24 Nov 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Korea, as is obvious, is definitely "inferior", and that reflected by expats I'd thought were always beneath me, and those in Taiwan.
Glad you proved me wrong, folks. I'd thought maybe you had something going there. Just had to double check. Wanted to see if the spotlight was still on your egos, ie., free-loving, free-wheeling, free-loading, free-thinking, because over here in Taiwan, they're quite laughing at you.
Yeah, Taiwan offers a better deal, and that for those who're considering the upper-class to the lower-class mentality, for truly Korea has won by dragging in whatever it can find and letting them make it their home, whereas Taiwan has picked and chosen with the expectation you must prove yourself, which I was afraid would mean a blow to the regular ESL teacher.
And as for my "cutdowns", I'd like to say, I never found so many idiots while on this board, and in Korea, in my entire existence. My comments were about "comparing Taiwan and Korea, in light of ESL jobs". So it appears, Korea is what they say, which in turn, is a reflection of those there. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| yer weird. |
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