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jeffkim1972
Joined: 10 Jan 2007
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 Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:32 am Post subject: Fluent in Korean |
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| How many people here are fluent in Korean, both listening and speaking. As well as fully literate? How many years did it take? |
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thebum
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: |
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took me about a year since i arrived here (am fully fluent/literate). i studied a tiny bit before i came, mostly on my own.
some people can do it faster, for some, it takes longer. |
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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:54 am Post subject: |
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A year are you kidding me? I've been studying for seven months now, and I'm not even close. Too many different words for the same thing here ie two ways to say left and right, honorifics, two different number systems, sometimes both are used for the same thing ie time. Its gotta be one of the hardest spoken languages in the world.
I don't disbelieve you, but you must be quite the linguist. |
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thebum
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| kingplaya4 wrote: |
A year are you kidding me? I've been studying for seven months now, and I'm not even close. Too many different words for the same thing here ie two ways to say left and right, honorifics, two different number systems, sometimes both are used for the same thing ie time. Its gotta be one of the hardest spoken languages in the world.
I don't disbelieve you, but you must be quite the linguist. |
hey, i do also happen to be a linguist!
but, i do agree it's quite hard. i'm really into learning languages, though. keep it up, and try to meet a lot of koreans. if you like drinking, that helps a lot~~ just practicing and having real conversations helps a lot, especially when combined with studying. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| thebum wrote: |
took me about a year since i arrived here (am fully fluent/literate). i studied a tiny bit before i came, mostly on my own.
some people can do it faster, for some, it takes longer. |
Fluent? In a year? That's extremely impressive. So can you watch the news and understand absolutely everything? What about broadsheets? I can speak Korean very well but I am certainly not fluent. I am good at writing and can understand most of the articles in the metro magazines. I have been here for 4 years though. Achieving fluency in a year is just amazing. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Fluent?
So, without using a dictionary, (not that that would help) what does 쟤 봐 mean? It's about the hardest thing that I've learned recently. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| I'd say fluent in a year wouldn't be too hard in Mexico. in korea -- that's damn good. |
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thebum
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| thebum wrote: |
took me about a year since i arrived here (am fully fluent/literate). i studied a tiny bit before i came, mostly on my own.
some people can do it faster, for some, it takes longer. |
Fluent? In a year? That's extremely impressive. So can you watch the news and understand absolutely everything? What about broadsheets? I can speak Korean very well but I am certainly not fluent. I am good at writing and can understand most of the articles in the metro magazines. I have been here for 4 years though. Achieving fluency in a year is just amazing. |
don't put words in my mouth! of course i don't understand everything on the news (although i understand most of it).
http://www.answers.com/fluent&r=67
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1. Able to express oneself readily and effortlessly: a fluent speaker; fluent in three languages.
2. Flowing effortlessly; polished: speaks fluent Russian; gave a fluent performance of the sonata. |
| Cheonmunka wrote: |
Fluent?
So, without using a dictionary, (not that that would help) what does 쟤 봐 mean? It's about the hardest thing that I've learned recently. |
look at him (or her) |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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No offence but it is all a matter of opinion and perception isn't it..how fluent you think you are
There is no way you are fluent in 1 year...period.
My Korean is quite good and I can understand a lot of of what is on TV now and in the gossip newspapers but I am a LONG way off fluency....
You may think you are fluent and you probably are quite good, especially compared to other foregners..perhaps upper intermediate but not fluent.
Until you can understand pretty much everything around you on a day in and day out basis then you are not fluent. |
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demi
Joined: 23 Mar 2006
Location: London
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:26 am Post subject: |
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do u really believe 'the bum' is fluent. of course not....he/she is talking rubbish.
fluent doesnt mean diff. things to diff. people. its obvious what fluent means, theres no ambiguity in the word. |
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jay-shi
Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: On tour
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| just because wrote: |
| Until you can understand pretty much everything around you on a day in and day out basis then you are not fluent. |
No offense to the fluent poster, who knows maybe he/she is fluent.
I would go further and say fluency in a 2nd-3rd... language can be determined by how well you can interpret the language into your native language and vice-versa, in real time.
I can do it with French-English without effort because they are both native languages for me.
In my 3 years in Korea I have met only 2 non-gyopos who could achieve this, and it's pretty damn impressive to watch. |
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Ginormousaurus
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: 700 Ft. Pulpit
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Props to thebum. That's impressive.
I've studied level 1 and 2 at Yonsei and 3 and 4 at Sogang and I'm nowhere near fluent yet. I'm starting to worry, actually, about just how near fluency I'll really be when I'm finished level 6. I think I read somewhere on here that you completed Sogang's level 5. Am I correct? If so, that's inspiring. |
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thebum
Joined: 09 Jan 2005
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
Props to thebum. That's impressive.
I've studied level 1 and 2 at Yonsei and 3 and 4 at Sogang and I'm nowhere near fluent yet. I'm starting to worry, actually, about just how near fluency I'll really be when I'm finished level 6. I think I read somewhere on here that you completed Sogang's level 5. Am I correct? If so, that's inspiring. |
yeah, level 6 now (but i'm not at the same level as my classmates  ) . i was gonna take level 7 but they changed the schedule for next quarter so i can't. also, there are/have been people who graduated from level 7 but were still terrible at korean. what i mean is that when i finished level 2 (which was the where i started at sogang), i went out and had dinner/drinks with some other students i had met at the graduation ceremony, including a girl who had graduated from level 7. she couldn't even order stuff at a restaurant. she couldn't understand the server and he couldn't understand her due to her poor korean.
Ginormousaurus, do you hang out with a lot of koreans? or a lot of westerners? i don't have anything against westerners, but almost all my friends in korea are either koreans or other foreigners who can't speak e nglish. anyway, keep it up. you'll get there.
| just because wrote: |
No offence but it is all a matter of opinion and perception isn't it..how fluent you think you are
There is no way you are fluent in 1 year...period.
My Korean is quite good and I can understand a lot of of what is on TV now and in the gossip newspapers but I am a LONG way off fluency....
You may think you are fluent and you probably are quite good, especially compared to other foregners..perhaps upper intermediate but not fluent.
Until you can understand pretty much everything around you on a day in and day out basis then you are not fluent. |
i'm not offended. but i do understand pretty much everything around me on a day in and day out basis. even my korean friends say my korean is better than theirs (and they're not joking)  |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| Ginormousaurus wrote: |
Props to thebum. That's impressive.
I've studied level 1 and 2 at Yonsei and 3 and 4 at Sogang and I'm nowhere near fluent yet. I'm starting to worry, actually, about just how near fluency I'll really be when I'm finished level 6. I think I read somewhere on here that you completed Sogang's level 5. Am I correct? If so, that's inspiring. |
How much does all that cost? |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| My Korean is quite fluent when it comes to speaking pick-up language. |
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