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The Dude from Canada
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: Do you want Korean citizenship? |
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Should the government of Korea grant citizenship to foreigners? Like the westerners in Korea who make a living because of their passport, yet pay no tax to the country which has given them their life opportunities. And usually every poster on this board who goes home on vacation always writes nasty messages about how 'they can't beleive how badly the west sucks' or 'the subways are too old and dirty' or'everybody's so fat.' Of course, there is the guaranteed 'there was a korean on my flight and he/she did this and that and caused this and that trouble.' Always badmouthing home is what they do. So, why not become real Koreans.
It would seem that the best way to make everyone happy is to give the long term foreigners korean citizenship, that way they can live they way they want, like real koreans. Of course, they would also have to do their korean military service, and raise mixed western and korean kids in a very intolerant society. However, since they stay so long here, why not? It's not that bad a place after all if they've been here more than 5 years.
For all of you who seek to tear me down, i would have you know i have been here for 5 years, no it's not a bad place, i used to be in esl and now i'm in IT for a very reputable korean firm, and i will probably get married to a korean woman, and i don't care how small my expensive house is. As well, I would be surprised to meet a foreign esl teacher in korea who is not a slacker, drunkard, reject or geek. However, the west can be rest assured that at least one person from that part of the world is doing something productive in korea.
(by the way, i do have many foreign friends, but none in the esl industry. All the misfits I worked with made me realize the company you keep determines your class) |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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determines your class |
It's amusing that someone without any would be the one to use the word 'class'. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: yes |
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No. I don't want it. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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If I'm not mistaken, I think you can apply for citizenship although I don't know how that works.
You can also get permenate residents after you've had an F-2 for two years by applying for an F-5. I would think unless your really thinking of giving up your citizenship in your home country, that an F-5 would be enough. |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Milwaukiedave wrote: |
that an F-5 would be enough. |
no.
My id# still doesn't work for korean web sites so becoming a Korean citizen would theoreticlly change that and solve a number of problems for me. |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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No.
Married a Korean but no interest in marrying myself to Korea itself. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:46 am Post subject: |
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My F5 is enough for me. |
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Kimchi Cha Cha

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: was Suncheon, now Brisbane
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: Re: Do you want Korean citizenship? |
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The Dude from Canada wrote: |
Should the government of Korea grant citizenship to foreigners? Like the westerners in Korea who make a living because of their passport, yet pay no tax to the country which has given them their life opportunities. . . |
You lost me right here at the start when you mentioned paying no tax. Every person working legally on a legal Visa pays Korean tax (of at least is under the assumption of paying tax with being it deducted from their wage) and thus contributes to the Korean economy.
Foreigners here aren't quite sponging off the Korean economy quite as much as you'd like to imagine. In fact, foreigners are paying taxes and contributing to the society and economy yet with few of the perks which Korean citizens receive.
Time to remove the chip off your shoulder.
P.S. My friend has lived, studied and worked here for seven years, is fluent in the language and respectful of its culture and history. Yet, despite numerous attempts to obtain citizenship is denied on often changing, flimsy grounds. I'm very reluctant to obtain citizenship from a country which fails to recognize and reward individuals who have put significant time and effort into contributing to its economy, and learning its history and its culture. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: |
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I assume if you got citizenship you would have to do your two years in the army. Anybody know if this is the case? |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: Re: Do you want Korean citizenship? |
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The Dude from Canada wrote: |
Should the government of Korea grant citizenship to foreigners? Like the westerners in Korea who make a living because of their passport, yet pay no tax to the country which has given them their life opportunities. |
Wow, you've lived here for 5 years yet have no idea that foreigners actually pay income tax too?
Why do I smell someone who has absolutely no idea what they are talking about? |
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Central Areola
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:25 am Post subject: |
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Man, I love your posts!
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I myself am also in the Korean esl industry. |
Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:12 pm
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i used to be in esl and now i'm in IT for a very reputable korean firm |
Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:02 am
Wow! Congratulations on the change of career. We've got a bright one here!
But, really.. You are about as subtle as a troll falling from a bridge chained to three goats wearing fluro M.C. Hammer pants.
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As well, I would be surprised to meet a foreign esl teacher in korea who is not a slacker, drunkard, reject or geek. However, the west can be rest assured that at least one person from that part of the world is doing something productive in korea. |
I would like to contribute 'wastrel' to your list of Western ESL teacher attributes, I can can vouch for this as a lifestyle also. I am grateful to you for picking up the slack where I fall short. I'll sleep much better tonight knowing that Some dude from Canada is maintaining rigid standards and keeping up appearances should the West glance this way. Bravo soldier! |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: Re: Do you want Korean citizenship? |
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The Dude from Canada wrote: |
As well, I would be surprised to meet a foreign esl teacher in korea who is not a slacker, drunkard, reject or geek. ) |
Stop looking in the mirror then and get out more. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Do you want Korean citizenship? |
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The Dude from Canada wrote: |
For all of you who seek to tear me down, i would have you know i have been here for 5 years, no it's not a bad place, i used to be in esl and now i'm in IT for a very reputable korean firm, and i will probably get married to a korean woman, and i don't care how small my expensive house is. As well, I would be surprised to meet a foreign esl teacher in korea |
You mean to tell us that you've actually been in Korea for 5 years and you don't even know that it's EFL?!
ESL is English taught as a second language in a native English speaking country.  |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Not really no.
Korea does not allow for dual citizenship so losing my Canadian citizenship is out of the question. Also, since I am on the F-series visa I see no reason to do this because it is not necessary to my life or well being.
As for the comments made about ESL teachers being slackers and so on...an old and tired cliche that gets tossed around on and off here and on other boards. Too many of the people who toss this slacker/loser tag at others should perhaps look at themselves first.....also if you consider your job as a joke, whatever that job may be, then you will invariably become a joke yourself...funny how that works... |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Nice post Homer.
BTW, Sorry to interrupt this train of though but I have a question to do with the F-2 VISA. I need to get mine renewed (continued??). I'm wondering which form do I fill out at Mokdong Immigration? Thank you.
Carry on. |
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