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What does it take to get fired?
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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:38 am    Post subject: What does it take to get fired? Reply with quote

What does it take in order for a hogwon, public school or whatever fire you... I mean besides from the obvious, not showing up to work, or showing up late....

I mean as far as teaching skills, what would it take?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: What does it take to get fired? Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
What does it take in order for a hogwon, public school or whatever fire you... I mean besides from the obvious, not showing up to work, or showing up late....

I mean as far as teaching skills, what would it take?


being dead.
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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing
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plokiju



Joined: 15 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It probably depends on the reputation of the school. I'd say if you're awake and there that's enough for a lot of schools.

Do anything like complain to the labour board about money owed though, anything less than absolute perfection could get you fired.

I heard about a guy caught driving drunk twice, constantly late for class, did nothing in class, asked for pay raises and cut in the number of classes, and it made the head teacher seriously consider firing him.
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chachee99



Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plokiju wrote:


I heard about a guy caught driving drunk twice, constantly late for class, did nothing in class, asked for pay raises and cut in the number of classes, and it made the head teacher seriously consider firing him.


They just considered to fire him?

Sometimes jobs like that are a good score.
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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if they 'considered' firing that guy, I must be 'considered' for a raise...
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jay-shi



Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: On tour

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

per my contract:

Quote:
The INSTITUTION shall have the right at its sole discretion to dismiss the HEAD ENGLISH TEACHER for clear and frequent neglect of duties under this Agreement, including but not limited to, frequent absences without approval of the INSTITUTION or good reasons therefore, criminal or other conduct inside of outside the INSTITUTION that would harm the reputation of INSTITUTION or students of staff, or for manifest inability to perform duties under this agreement. Before any such dismissal, the HEAD ENGLISH TEACHER shall be warned of dissatisfaction with performance and shall be given 14 working days in which to remedy the same.


and

Quote:
Both parties have the right to make the contract null and void under one of the following circumstances:

a. The health of the HEAD ENGLISH TEACHER is such that it is deemed impossible for the HEAD ENGLISH TEACHER to continue,

b. Blatant misconduct by the HEAD ENGLISH TEACHER,

C. The HEAD ENGLISH TEACHER or dependents violate Korean law,

d. In the event of war, civil strife, or other disturbances or matters that are deemed by
either the HEAD ENGLISH TEACHER's government or Korean governments as being unusual and of
adequate reason for leaving the country, provided that official documents from respective
embassies are presented.
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:26 am    Post subject: Fired Reply with quote

The guy I replaced was fired.

He:

* never paid his utilities (cellphone, gas, electricity, rent mang't fees)
* never prepared lesson plans or wintercamp agendas
* smoked in class & at teachers meetings
* went AWOL
* took sick days without advising, & was seen by kids in the local PC bar
* took the schools notebook / laptop overseas with him
* took the schools cellphone overseas with him
* wracked up over 800,000 won in international cellphone calls
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chachee99



Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Re: Fired Reply with quote

chris_J2 wrote:
The guy I replaced was fired.

He:

* never paid his utilities (cellphone, gas, electricity, rent mang't fees)
* never prepared lesson plans or wintercamp agendas
* smoked in class & at teachers meetings
* went AWOL
* took sick days without advising, & was seen by kids in the local PC bar
* took the schools notebook / laptop overseas with him
* took the schools cellphone overseas with him
* wracked up over 800,000 won in international cellphone calls


lol. Sounds like a class act.

I laughed when I read he smoked in class. Also getting busted at the PC bang while calling in sick was funny.
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: Re: Fired Reply with quote

chris_J2 wrote:
The guy I replaced was fired.

He:

* never paid his utilities (cellphone, gas, electricity, rent mang't fees)
* never prepared lesson plans or wintercamp agendas
* smoked in class & at teachers meetings
* went AWOL
* took sick days without advising, & was seen by kids in the local PC bar
* took the schools notebook / laptop overseas with him
* took the schools cellphone overseas with him
* wracked up over 800,000 won in international cellphone calls


I thought that must have been one of the guys I replaced, but then I remembered he didn't know how to use a computer.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew a guy who threw photocopied activity sheets at the kids to do, then sat down and read the paper. He did this everyday for about 8 months before doing a runner.
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mountain goat



Joined: 18 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my last job, my colleague called in sick from the airport...mid call they started making anouncements. They didn't say anything to him, but its always a bit dodgy when you call in sick either a day before or day after a vacation.
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Darkness



Joined: 12 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading that guy didnt plan lessons, I was worried, until I read he was smoking in class and stuff, lol

I guess I have nothing to worry about I keep trying to make the classes better. I mean it only makes my day go faster so why not.....
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
I knew a guy who threw photocopied activity sheets at the kids to do, then sat down and read the paper. He did this everyday for about 8 months before doing a runner.


You know a school 3 years ago that made me an offer for a job said the teacher previous did just that (read the paper in class and ignored the kids). Before I came here, I couldn't believe someone would be so unprofessional as to do something like that. Now, I can understand circumstances when you might do that. Your kids are monsters. They respond to no method of discipline. The school refuses to discipline them or even call their mothers. I could see the only recourse would to simply give them head down games and read the damn paper. Because no one cares.
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alabamaman



Joined: 25 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: What does it take to get fired? Reply with quote

Darkness wrote:
What does it take in order for a hogwon, public school or whatever fire you... I mean besides from the obvious, not showing up to work, or showing up late....

I mean as far as teaching skills, what would it take?



Greeting your boss by saying "Heil Hitler" on a consistant basis would do the trick.
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