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[Snowmeow]

I know a lot of us are big fans of PRIDE FC. The next big event is tomorrow morning at 10:30 am and features Wanderlei Silva, Dan Henderson, Mauricio Rua, Gomi Takanori, among others.

I think Silva is tired of losing to the heavyweights and will want to win this fight convincingly. If he doesn't maybe he's ready to retire.

[Snowmeow]

Well, at least 2 people are looking forward to the matchup! 2/2 think Silva will win!

[Snowmeow]

end of an era.. it was sad.

I'm so distraught I am going to have to buy pizza, diet be damned.

[Satori]

Didn't see it. So what happened?

[Snowmeow]

Silva just seemed slow. Henderson got him pinned several times, and opened up Silva's face a bit. In the third round, Henderson threw a left hand punch and knocked Silva flat. Henderson pounced on the stunned Silva, and the fight was over.

[Fresh Prince]

I have to say the best fight was the Takamori Gomi vs Anthony Diaz fight.
Both are young and inexperienced but both of them earned a lot of respect for this one. Takamori could barely stay up and dropped his defenses completly at the end of the first round but Diaz couldn't hit him hard enough to knock him down. After the bell Diaz raised his hands in the air and paraded a bit, acting as if he had won already.

In the second round Takamori found his second wind and pummled Diaz brutally despite being exhuasted. Diaz ended up winning but looked like he was run over by a freight train, meanwhile Takamori barely had a scratch on him. Diaz's leg choke move was brilliantly executed and saved the day. Have to give respect to Takamori for being the comeback kid on this one.

[Rteacher]

I don't follow MMA in much detail. Are Wanderlei, Anderson, and Tim Silva all related? I've seen Anderson Silva fight, and I think that Tim Silva is still the heavyweight champ in UFC (I've heard that Randy Couture is coming out of retirement - and stepping up in weight class - to challenge him...)

I heard pro wrestler (and former Olympic gold medalist...) Kurt Angle in an interview last week state that he's really serious about challenging some of the top guys in MMA. He said that even though his peak years are past him (at least six-or-seven years ago...) he's still confident that he would at least be competitive with the likes of Chuck Liddell, Couture, and Tito Ortiz after upgrading his striking and ju-jit-su skills ...

He said that realistically his MMA career would be limited to three matches, and if necessary he could come down in weight to compete in the 205 division.

BTW, Pride has had financial and legal troubles stemming from Japanese mafia ties, and may be for sale. Reportedly, UFC (and even WWE's Vince McMahon...) have at least seriously considered buying it - and possibly have made formal offers...

[Snowmeow]

Wanderlei and Anderson Silva have the same last name, but are not related. Apparently Silva is a very popular family name in Brazil. Tim's last name is actually Sylvia, which conjures images of my fat'n nasty step-aunt.

Pride's troubles may be the biggest reason why some of their stars have started to migrate to the UFC.

Fresh Prince - According to fightfinder, Gomi Takanori is far from inexperienced. He's been fighting in MMA for 9 years and has been one of Japan's biggest stars with a total record of 27-4. To me he just looked out of condition for this fight and ran out of gas.

[Rteacher]

I guess that there are a lot more "Gracies" associated with mixied-martial arts than Silvas...

Three guys that I know of that have come to UFC from PRIDE are Quentin "Rampage" Jackson, Mirko "Cro Crop" Fillopovic, and Heath Herring...

"Rampage" was the last fighter to beat Chuck Lidell - and the only loss that Lidell has yet to avenge...

"Cro Crop" figures to be in-line for a shot at the title held by Tim Silvia (which he might lose to Couture first...)

And Heath Herring is best known to the general public (and YouTube fans...) as the guy who sucker-punched and knocked out his Japanese foe before a Pride match - after the Japanese guy kissed him ... http://youtube.com/watch?v=6UNmBaUM3bk&mode=related&search=

I saw Jackson and "Cro Crop" win their first matches with UFC while Herring had problems defending against takedowns while losing to a guy with a defensive wrestling style...

There are some significant differences between PRIDE and UFC matches, and they are outlined fairly well, I think, in this post:

First off, the judging criteria is different. The UFC follows boxing's old guard guidelines, the 10-point must system, round-by-round, etc. PRIDE's fights are judged in their entirety. They also weigh heavily a fighter's attempts to finish the fight, aggresiveness and so on.

Particular striking elements are different, such as kneeing or kicking to the head of a downed opponent is legal in PRIDE. Or as you pointed out, the illegality of elbows in PRIDE.

PRIDE's fights tend to have a 10-minute first round with two more 5-minute rounds, with the UFC using three 5-minute rounds or five 5-minute rounds for title fights.

Also, PRIDE has a yellow card caution system. Basically fouls or inactivity in a fight can warrant a fighter a yellow card. Each yellow card is an automatic 10% deduction in that fighter's pay for the fight.

And the last thing I can think of is PRIDE's bringing fighter's back to center ring in the position they were in if too close to the ropes.

http://blogs.chron.com/fighting/2006/12/cro_cop_appears_ufc_bound_1.html

Of course, UFC is fought in the "Octagon" cage...

[Wrench]

I was going to reply to this thread earlier and say Henderson. He is a better fighter imho. Any way Pride has many bumps on the road.. There was even talk that WWE might buy it. UFC is where its at for me.. Elbows baby, that and Chuck Lidell ( He is so dreamy) hehe. Nah he is my hero damn that boy can strike.

Rampage hasn't been the same since he got his head pumpled. That all that jesus talk must have f'ed him up good. Seen him fight he seems a bit worn out. I think Chuckles could bring him down.. I am sure that fight is gone be prime ticket.

[Fresh Prince]

Snowmeow-I've seen him fight once before and he won but I felt his opponent had no business being in the ring with him. I had no idea he's been fighting for nine years though.