Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Talk like a New Yorker?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Talk like a New Yorker? Reply with quote

How exactly do New Yorkers speak?



"Why don't you get outta my face and go @%&# yo'self!"

Of course clearly they're trying to lure women with the whole Sex in the City thing. Are they really going to teach women about fisting, rimming, three ways, and all the other topics they deal with?

"Okay, now any of youse girls do your homework? How many of youse got your boyfriend to rim or fist you last night?"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a native New Yorker, born and raised, I can say that I have NO IDEA how a New Yorker's supposed to talk. I swear it's more a borough by borough thing.....I'm the Bronx and I don't quite sound like someone from Queens or Brooklyn.

The New Yorker accent is nonsense to me. Thanks TV and movies Confused

But I'm sure others will disagree.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Almost as bad as the "Talk like Hugh Grant" trend a whiles back.

Guess you could teach NY inflection perhaps??

Get outta here......pshaw,get otta herrrrreeeee....get outta here ya---!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Brooklyn accent is one of the most unsexy accents I've ever heard.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
R-Seoul



Joined: 23 Aug 2006
Location: your place

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worse than someone ending every other sentence with the *canadian english* eh?

Now that's painful my friend.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Canadian English" accent doesn't really exist outside of Atlantic Canada, same as the Brooklyn accent is something you need to grow up in Brooklyn to develop.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the Brooklyn accent is attractive. I also like some accents in the Boston area, and when it comes to the South I only like certain areas of the Appalachia area. When you say New York, we are talking about a large state. Upstate New Yorkers sometimes sound similar to people from say Toronto. A lot of the New Yorkers from New York City don't pronounce the letter r, I mean some don't. And some have a strong sound to the letter o. As far as saying youz that is also used in some parts of northern Ohio and not just New York. However, the movies about mafiosi makes people think it is exclusive to New York.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bnrockin



Joined: 27 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love the north east accents, but the problem is, is that employers don't. Every year, NE'erners pay lots of money for lessons on how to get rid of their accent. Way to go Pagoda.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gatsby



Joined: 09 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The New York (City) accent most definitely lives.

But most people who grow up in NYC don't have a clue they have an accent. One reason is that many New Yorkers rarely ever get out of the city. So, of course, they sound like everyone else. The other reason is that they simply don't hear it, when they do leave.

I grew up just outside of NYC and had a bit of an accent, which I realized after moving to other parts of the country, and attempted to expunge. One clue, however, that seems to give New Yorkers away is their pace and cadence. Most other parts of the country talk in a slower, more relaxed way. In the South, it is not just the accent, but the way they stretch out words, and the sometimes painfully slow way they talk that marks a local. Another clue is that expat New Yorkers do not generally spend all their time talking about sports, fishing and Jesus.

People from the rest of the country sometimes make broad generalizations about New York accents, assuming people are from New York based on slim evidence, and often getting it right, perhaps because there are just so many New Yorkers -- and so many New Yorkers who have escaped from New York.

However, not all of New York is NYC. Long Island is whole nother world. The south shore of Long Island has a distinctive accent that is not common on the north shore. Upstaters do not talk llike people from the City. Oddly, enough, there are some country locals up there who proudly sport a hick twang unlike anything anywhere else. Many Upstaters want very much not to be associated with the City, even to the point of rooting for the Boston Red Sox.

Another oddity I have encounter is that some people from New Hampshire can sound almost exactly like New Yorkers. The accent, which developed independently, bears a close resemblance. But there are far fewer folks from New Hampshire who have moved to other parts of the country.

So don't be too quick to assume someone is a New Yorker.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gatsby wrote:
The New York (City) accent most definitely lives.

But most people who grow up in NYC don't have a clue they have an accent. One reason is that many New Yorkers rarely ever get out of the city. So, of course, they sound like everyone else. The other reason is that they simply don't hear it, when they do leave.

I grew up just outside of NYC and had a bit of an accent, which I realized after moving to other parts of the country, and attempted to expunge. One clue, however, that seems to give New Yorkers away is their pace and cadence. Most other parts of the country talk in a slower, more relaxed way. In the South, it is not just the accent, but the way they stretch out words, and the sometimes painfully slow way they talk that marks a local. Another clue is that expat New Yorkers do not generally spend all their time talking about sports, fishing and Jesus.

People from the rest of the country sometimes make broad generalizations about New York accents, assuming people are from New York based on slim evidence, and often getting it right, perhaps because there are just so many New Yorkers -- and so many New Yorkers who have escaped from New York.

However, not all of New York is NYC. Long Island is whole nother world. The south shore of Long Island has a distinctive accent that is not common on the north shore. Upstaters do not talk llike people from the City. Oddly, enough, there are some country locals up there who proudly sport a hick twang unlike anything anywhere else. Many Upstaters want very much not to be associated with the City, even to the point of rooting for the Boston Red Sox.

Another oddity I have encounter is that some people from New Hampshire can sound almost exactly like New Yorkers. The accent, which developed independently, bears a close resemblance. But there are far fewer folks from New Hampshire who have moved to other parts of the country.

So don't be too quick to assume someone is a New Yorker.


Alright....I suppose I'll buy your argument. I lived in the Bronx, went to school in Brooklyn and bounced around all the boroughs except Staten Island. On top of that, I went to college in Vermont and that's when I started hearing that I didn't "sound" like a New Yorker at all. Then on top of that, I come to Korea and I'm hearing from EVERYONE that I sound like a Canadian from the Plains....And the really odd thing is that my parents are Jamaican and have accents but I don't sound anything like them and can't do a Jamaican accent to save my life (even though I spent every summer in Jamaica from the age of 3 months to 14).

New York is a BIG BIG Place and that definitely leads to some wildly different varients. I'm sure the accents in Buffalo, Albany and Rochester are nothing alike and those are all cities in the northern part of the state.

In conclusion....the New Yorker accent is a myth that is alive and well due to movies and TV. Really it's no different than the idea that the American accent exists when what it really is is a tv friendly accent that is prefered for its blandness more than anything. Think about it, you can listen to any news program from any city in any state and ALL the news anchors sound THE SAME....
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There isn't one New Yorker accent, but if you are saying there aren't certain stereotypical accents from New York then you are seriously mistaken. That is akin to saying there isn't a certain distinct accent in New Orleans that came largely about due to the mixture of the Italians and the Irish there. In New York, in some areas you had the mixture of the Jews, Irish, Italians, and English to form certain ways of speaking. That includes the speed of talking. Of course, there are things in common between many New Yorkers with other people from the East Coast. That goes without saying. Many areas have certain accents. Many people in New York can tell where some people from New York originally come from, but you can also get thrown off probably by people whose parents left that part of the country to live in the South. Accents are not as stationary as they used to be. Southern accents are also quite different from each other. A Texan and a South Carolinan sound quite different.
I prefer the letter somewhat. It seems softer and gentler to me.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
suby



Joined: 20 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a New York accent watch any CNN piece about Anna Nicole's trial. That judge is 100% New Yorker!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
yodanole



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: La Florida

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't really discern New Yorkers strictly by their accent or pronunciation. But topics of conversation, and geographical or cultural references can be a dead giveaway.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yodanole wrote:
You don't really discern New Yorkers strictly by their accent or pronunciation. But topics of conversation, and geographical or cultural references can be a dead giveaway.



Well, if someone has a pronounced New York accent connected to certain ethnics like Jews and Italians. Then you have a certain way some pronounce their o as in the o in coffee, a more pronounced o. I had a friend from Brooklyn who really pronounced his Os in a strong way, and the way he would say call would be like cole. So if you talk like that and live in California it would be strange if you weren't originally from New York. Of course, most people in New York don't sound or talk like that. That isn't certain boroughs in the NYC area.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what they mean is "Talk like an American at Pagoda!" They know that New York is a worldwide symbol for America, and that is what people want: to sound like an American.

However, if they said "Talk like an American at Pagoda," some people would set themselves on fire in front of the school. That, or cut their fingers off. Twisted Evil
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> General Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International