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How corrupt is your public school?
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: How corrupt is your public school? Reply with quote

I can think of three different ways my school is scamming me at the moment.

1: They're making a deduction for my severance out of my monthly salary, so that eventually I will have paid 50% of my own severance. (Basically, I'm getting screwed out of a million won over the course of the year.)

2: When I brought up the first issue, they told me that they would stop taking the severance deduction if I agreed to come into school every day during summer and winter vacation. (IE, they knew all along what they were doing but were trying to blackmail me not to raise a fuss, which worked, but only while I'm still employed there.)

3: As most of you know, only grades 3-6 have English class. At this particular school, they collected 400,000 won/month from the parents of the 1st grade and 2nd grade classes respectively to pay for English instruction. The full time teacher taught one class (and received the 400k) and they got a part time teacher for the other grade (also paid 400k.)

Well, when I started, they stopped paying the 400K with the rationale that we weren't teaching over our contracted hours. (Fair enough.) However, they were still making the parents pay 400K each month and collecting it! So, how was I getting scammed? Well, technically I don't think I was supposed to be teaching 1st grade, but the bigger thing is that they were collecting the money from the parents with the understanding that the money was to pay for English instruction which was already being paid for by my salary. Interesting.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as far as I could tell, they're fine. They never tried to screw me over in any way (I'm part of epik though).

I WAS right inside the room when a teacher received a bribe though. Just sitting at my computer desk when I look over at the parent handing over an envelope that was almost a cm thick.

damn.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure about only 3-6th grades having English class? If so, you should take pictures of your 1-2nd grade English classes that you're teaching and do the black mailing thingy that they are doing with your severance pay.

But are you sure about the deduction of your severance pay? Do you mean pension deduction?
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChuckECheese wrote:
Are you sure about only 3-6th grades having English class? If so, you should take pictures of your 1-2nd grade English classes that you're teaching and do the black mailing thingy that they are doing with your severance pay.

But are you sure about the deduction of your severance pay? Do you mean pension deduction?


Yes, I am sure. They are deducting pension AND severance out of my monthly salary.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In that case, you should take picture of your 1-2nd grade English classes and go forward with your black mailing to get your severance pay thingy straight and maybe negotiate for extra vacation days.

But don't get greedy and ask for extra money or compensation if teaching 1-2nd grade doesn't go over 22 hours during your regular work hours.


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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dare say my school pockets a nice chunk of the allocated budget from the regional Education Board.I can never get a straight answer about how much my housing deposit is.Just keep hearing "Well,you know...Bundang is expensive..."I looked into how much housing goes for in my area myself,I'd say they've pocketed 30 or 40 K.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school bends the law to make life better for me and I've even been able to dip into the ... ahem, I think I won't go there. Very Happy
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is corrupt that way. Even government employees get extra money for "overtime".

Somebody's getting cash for your English classes. Parents are paying. Public school salaries are ridiculously low and some beaurocrats are making a nice chunk of change.

Then they have the balls to deduct severence from your pay? I don't even know what that is. Why would that make any sense? They're stealing from you. Tell them you want it all back and to hell with their "ok, but you must work summer and winter classes". Why? So, they can make more money?

You have proof that they're stealing from you. I'd go to the labor board and get your LOR and a month's severence.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
My school bends the law to make life better for me and I've even been able to dip into the ... ahem, I think I won't go there. Very Happy


Dip into what? Bends the law? How?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so corrupt that Jimmy Hoffa is giving Rodney Dangerfield a little respect on the side, if you know what I mean
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ben the saint



Joined: 16 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Financial Budget ESL Teachers in Korea.

The information about funding was passed by the Korean Government in the year 2000 here in Korea. It does not apply for small �mom and pop� hagwons and is only for legit schools with �good or reliable� reputations here in Korea. (Please note the quotations, because not every one from the outside knows the standards). If you have read my previous posts then you know where I work.

Ok let�s see. Your schools financial budget for each ESL teacher is W40 million won. This money is set for employing an ESL teacher in public and most private schools. The funds are available nation wide and all the school has to do is provide the proper documents to receive funding. Some areas of Seoul (Kangnam) receive a little more.

Salary- W26, 400,000 per year. Monthly= 2.2million.
Housing- 6, 000,000. Monthly around 500,000.
Tax, insurance and pension, roughly around 1, 500 per year.

Total W33, 900,000 per year. More or less.

Do you ever wonder about the other 6 million? Don�t tell me for books, other supplies, recruiter or airfare. These expenses fall under different budgets that the government covers.

If you still don�t believe, then get a K friend to request these documents at your local Gu office. These records are public information.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
My school bends the law to make life better for me and I've even been able to dip into the ... ahem, I think I won't go there. Very Happy


Dip into what? Bends the law? How?


The company ink I would imagine. Although the bending there is probably illegal only if one of the parties is married.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ben the saint wrote:
Financial Budget ESL Teachers in Korea.

The information about funding was passed by the Korean Government in the year 2000 here in Korea. It does not apply for small �mom and pop� hagwons and is only for legit schools with �good or reliable� reputations here in Korea. (Please note the quotations, because not every one from the outside knows the standards). If you have read my previous posts then you know where I work.

Ok let�s see. Your schools financial budget for each ESL teacher is W40 million won. This money is set for employing an ESL teacher in public and most private schools. The funds are available nation wide and all the school has to do is provide the proper documents to receive funding. Some areas of Seoul (Kangnam) receive a little more.

Salary- W26, 400,000 per year. Monthly= 2.2million.
Housing- 6, 000,000. Monthly around 500,000.
Tax, insurance and pension, roughly around 1, 500 per year.

Total W33, 900,000 per year. More or less.

Do you ever wonder about the other 6 million? Don�t tell me for books, other supplies, recruiter or airfare. These expenses fall under different budgets that the government covers.

If you still don�t believe, then get a K friend to request these documents at your local Gu office. These records are public information.


If this is true then I wonder where all the money goes.
Apparently there is no budget for my work book which I was asked ot prepare before the holidays, but it is ok for me to make over 1000 photocopies every week.

Hmm strangeeeeeeeeeee

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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Re: How corrupt is your public school? Reply with quote

Thunndarr wrote:
They're making a deduction for my severance out of my monthly salary, so that eventually I will have paid 50% of my own severance. (Basically, I'm getting screwed out of a million won over the course of the year.)

Let them think that. Once the contract is finished and you file a complaint with Labor, Labor will set them straight on that point very quickly. Your school is not the first to try this BS.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the first four months of the contract the school board was pocketing the money that should've gone into paying rent on my place. They found a landlord who would let me use the place for free. The board also "redirected" funds it was given to open up an English Town, which never opened.
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