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Follow-Up to St Paul, Daegu (bad feeling)
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Follow-Up to St Paul, Daegu (bad feeling) Reply with quote

I wrote an email to the recruiter (Sally at UBC) telling her that I've heard bad things about this school, and asking if she knew of any public school positions or other (more reputable) hogwons. Her response:

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And regarding your concern, as I told you, Saint Paul Junior School is a big franchise school here in Korea. Every major city has two or three Saint Paul Junior English school. That means every Saint Paul School has its own stories!

In case of the Saint Louis School I offered to you is a great one.

I�m not a recruiter to say that a bad school is a good school. I can gather more information about the school here and if the school was a really bad one with bad reputation, I wouldn�t have recommended the school to foreign teachers.

You know what I�m trying to say! You can trust my judgment about the school and you will get to know the school is really nice through the phone interview. That�s why I arranged the interview between you and the school so you can check out everything speaking with foreign teachers there. Their opinions are the most important, you know!

And regarding public school positions, unfortunately there�re not many vacancies here in Korea and public schools have very high standards for selecting their foreign teachers. Teachers should major in Education or English literature and they should have over 3 or 4 years teaching experience with many certificates related to teaching English. You know what I�m trying to say.

Please understand this situation!

The obvious thing I can tell you is that Saint Paul Junior School is also great as much as public schools are here.


What would you do if you got an email like this? Take her word for it? Run like hell?
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recruiters are always so defensive.
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not many vacancies in public schools????
Education or English lit. majors????
Kidding right?
I have never heard of the hagwan she is pushing on you..and there are plenty of public school positions for the taking.
Get in touch with one of the recruiting firms that have the contracts for public schools. Usually worknplay or footprints.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! I got the feeling she was trying to make me feel like I wasn't qualified to teach in public schools.

btw, I've got 4 years' experience in three countries, and two of those years are at a uni in the US--no TEFL certificate though, and my undergrad was in Business.

So I'll just toss this one to the wind.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And regarding public school positions, unfortunately there�re not many vacancies here in Korea and public schools have very high standards for selecting their foreign teachers. Teachers should major in Education or English literature and they should have over 3 or 4 years teaching experience with many certificates related to teaching English. You know what I�m trying to say.


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

oh, my goodness. that's the funniest thing i've read in a long time.
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midgic



Joined: 14 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And regarding your concern, as I told you, Saint Paul Junior School is a big franchise school here in Korea. Every major city has two or three Saint Paul Junior English school.


This is completely false.


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And regarding public school positions, unfortunately there�re not many vacancies here in Korea and public schools have very high standards for selecting their foreign teachers. Teachers should major in Education or English literature and they should have over 3 or 4 years teaching experience with many certificates related to teaching English. You know what I�m trying to say.

Please understand this situation!


That's funny stuff.
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Follow-Up to St Paul, Daegu (bad feeling) Reply with quote

Jizzo T. Clown wrote:
I wrote an email to the recruiter (Sally at UBC) telling her that I've heard bad things about this school, and asking if she knew of any public school positions or other (more reputable) hogwons. Her response:

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And regarding public school positions, unfortunately there�re not many vacancies here in Korea and public schools have very high standards for selecting their foreign teachers. Teachers should major in Education or English literature and they should have over 3 or 4 years teaching experience with many certificates related to teaching English. You know what I�m trying to say.

Please understand this situation!

The obvious thing I can tell you is that Saint Paul Junior School is also great as much as public schools are here.




The question is: Why would anyone with the above qualifications, work in a school in Korea in the first place?
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ShadowEdge



Joined: 23 Jun 2006
Location: Prisons under Pyongyang

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I applied for a public school job in Daegu last week and was offered a job less than three hours after submitting my application. That recruiter is full of it, I wouldn't trust another word she says as she's already impeached her credibiitly.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"And regarding public school positions, unfortunately there�re not many vacancies here in Korea and public schools have very high standards for selecting their foreign teachers. Teachers should major in Education or English literature and they should have over 3 or 4 years teaching experience with many certificates related to teaching English. You know what I�m trying to say. "

That is Suuuuch a load of puppy-poopy.

She's trying to sell you on that one school, and I think by talking such nonsense, hoping that you will think your opportunities are restricted....tot he hakwon she's trying to sell you.

With your experience, you would fit in at a level 2 EPIK I think. If you're not desperate to get away from where you are right this minute, I would go the public school route. The school year is starting now, but quotas are not nearly full, so hiring will continue.
If you want to consider it, as a hint, I would start getting the following ready...
Criminal background check.
2 or 3 letters of reference.
There's lots more, so search EPIK, GEPIK, public schools. (Other posters might be able to tell you the acronyms for the other public school programs. Those are the only two I know.)
The CBC might take some time, so it helps to get it straight away.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 /others--
Thanks for that useful information!

Unfortunately I can't head over until May (when my contract here is up), and by then, no more public school jobs. Crying or Very sad

I may just stay on at my current gig until the fall and try to get into a public school then. Does that sound feasible?

I'd rather wait it out here than take a crappy job where I'd get screwed.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Unfortunately I can't head over until May (when my contract here is up), and by then, no more public school jobs. "

Why not? The EPIK program ostensibly closed to new applications last June. I was hired in SEPTEMBER! Others were hired after me.

Hey, just for a check. Any EPIK or GEPIK people out there who were hired outside of the regular 'hiring season'? Drop a note, give the OP a little hope.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The recruiter is lying. I know (for sure) that YongIn's school district is on a massive recruitment drive this term and is having trouble filling all of it's positions, let alone all the other schools trying to too. Also, just a quick look at their pay scales and the criteria for them show that this recruiter is lying about the necessary qualifications.

Like someone said, try Footprints, WorkandPlay or ATC. All are hiring for the public schools.
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be very surprised if you could not get a public school job at ANY time of the year
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formerflautist



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my gig in July. Really, finding a public school job isn't an issue any time of the year.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

formerflautist wrote:
I got my gig in July. Really, finding a public school job isn't an issue any time of the year.


Really? I was under the impression they only hired in the spring and fall.

How did you find that gig if you don't mind me asking?
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