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lpcool
Joined: 21 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 7:22 pm Post subject: Who is "President Park Chung Hee"? |
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I've heard a lot about this President Park Chung Hee and how he was responsible for the rapid industrialization of Korea. Can people shed some light on who this is?
Also, if you know of any good sources of information on him in English, I'd be grateful. Thanks. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: Who is "President Park Chung Hee"? |
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lpcool wrote: |
I've heard a lot about this President Park Chung Hee and how he was responsible for the rapid industrialization of Korea. Can people shed some light on who this is?
Also, if you know of any good sources of information on him in English, I'd be grateful. Thanks. |
Park Jung-hee was one of the bigger bastards to walk the earth. Responsible for killing (or having killed) a whole lot of Koreans through the KCIA and sacrificing human rights for industrialization. A lot of the older Koreans still think he's great because, despite the individual cost, the see him as the man responsible for modern Korea.
Actually, he probably is the main cog for Korea's industrialization which he achieved by using primarily American aid and investing it in the Korean infrastructure. Chaebols such as Hyundai gave him huge kickbacks for contracts. So, for example, he gave the contract to build Korea's highways to Hyundai, Hyundai gave him a bunch of the money back (the money is hidden that way). He was assassinated in 1979 (I think), which wasn't a moment too soon.
I can't point you to any specific reference materials. What I know about him I pieced together from a lot of different sources. |
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Gord

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posco's trumpet
Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: Beneath the Underdog
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: Who is "President Park Chung Hee"? |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Park chung hee = EVIL DICTATOR!
finally shot by his closest advisor, guess he knew how much of a bastard he was!
He ruled with the iron first!
the positive , koreans thank him for the modern korea.. which I cant imagine how!!!
I mean he died in 79.. and in 89 their was still nothing HERE!! korea was still considered a 3rd world country!!
it wasnt really until 89 - 90's that korea started to develope with the help from foreign investors and MORE American business help..
I think what PARK did, was just rebuild the cities after they were destroyed by war.. not much else..
he caused more negative and hate than good!! |
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jvalmer

Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Park Chung-Hee was the guy who jump started Korea's modernization. If he didn't come into power and rule like a dictator, then Korea would still be an India like country, with no infrastructure, people living and starving on the streets and elected politicians holding up progress because of endless debates. One of my friend's parents came from Korea, and they say that for the 5 or so years after the Korean war, the 'elected' (American backed) politicians did nothing but debate, and nothing was done. When Park came to power they thought it would be nothing but the status quo. But, the first thing done was a highway was built between Seoul and Busan, therfore making it easier to transport goods across the country. Slowly their lives got better. The first year it would be free education until grade 6, the next year, their dirt road was paved.
Westerners may brand him an evil guy, because he killed and tortured his opponents. But, the average Korean had very little to worry about. They were willing to put up with him as long as their lives improved. Because of Park, the population lived with a roof over their heads, put food on the table and had electricity and running water in thier homes. Overall, Korean's lives improved greatly under his rule. Also, a reason why Gyeongsang-do is a bit richer than Jeolla-do (Park was from Gyeongsang-do). Park even predicted his demise. He said the day someone puts a bullet into his head, is the day he steps down from power.
Finally, "www.kimsoft.com" is a page run by the Korean-Japanese who favour the North's regime and is backed by them. So, I wouldn't put much stock in their claims.
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kylehawkins2000

Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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President Park was not a nice man. That said however, I think that Korea was not ready for a true democracy after the Korean War. Mr. Park was undoubtedly cruel but he has left a huge legacy behind. He is responsible in a large part of the rapid economic and industrial development in this country. The Cheabol companies were probably good for Korea in the past. Unfortunately the structure of the economy caused the collapse in 1997. That collapse was probably good in some ways becuase it forced the reform of the economic structure in this country and encouraged economic diversification. Changes are still occuring but I would argue that the economy today is much stronger and healthier than the pre-1997 era. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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When talking about corrupt presidents lets not forget to mention Kim Dae Jung. A good expample of a man that sells his principles when in power. A right wing pro American president wouldn't be a bad thing right now. Then the government could send the troops out and have some of those anti American, North Korean flag waving morons arrested. Instead we have f naive and foolish administrations who want to get into bed with Jong Ill. At the same time they recieve kick backs themselves and when caught out ask for forgiveness based on some mission from a higher being.(e.g Dae Jung and the NK summit.) Anyone seen the house that he is having built right now? I wonder how he is funding that. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Gwangjuboy wrote: |
When talking about corrupt presidents lets not forget to mention Kim Dae Jung. A good expample of a man that sells his principles when in power. A right wing pro American president wouldn't be a bad thing right now. Then the government could send the troops out and have some of those anti American, North Korean flag waving morons arrested. Instead we have f naive and foolish administrations who want to get into bed with Jong Ill. At the same time they recieve kick backs themselves and when caught out ask for forgiveness based on some mission from a higher being.(e.g Dae Jung and the NK summit.) Anyone seen the house that he is having built right now? I wonder how he is funding that. |
Just out of curiousity, do you have any links showing Dae Jung got any kickback?
If he did get kickback I can see that as an example of selling his principles, but my take on Dae Jung is that he tried to do things for Korea and Koreans but met resistance all the time. Tried to make a 5 day work week but the unions would have none of it, for example. |
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posco's trumpet
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posco's trumpet
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makushi

Joined: 08 Jun 2003
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Oh come on, lets be real people...South Korea couldn't have progessed from total decimation after the war to what it accomplished under Park's rule (national transportation/communication/education systems....manufacturing and exports of textiles, cars, ships, and electronics) without some type of strong leader.
North Korea and the Soviet Union were doing as much as possible to create dissent in the South, and armed incursions were common (even to the point of killing Park's wife).
This is Korea and Koreans were are talking about...do you really think a Bill Clinton or Tony Blair-type politician could just spring up from nowhere, and get him self elected. This country had absolutely zero experience with democracy...and the one attempt Lee Sigman...was a complete failure...due to his lack of strength.
You are bunch of fools...Park did (with US aid) in the South what the Great Leader (with Soviet aid) failed miserbly to do in the North.
Yeah some blood was shed...but hey take a look at your own histories...guaranteed that 100 times more blood was shed by American leaders trying to keep control of the lower class whites, indians, and black than by Park.
Ya bunch of ignorant judgemental losers...."oh he was evil evil evil" Yeah right up there just about every other leader in the history of the world...wake up and smell the coffee. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:46 am Post subject: |
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makushi wrote: |
You are bunch of fools...Park did (with US aid) in the South what the Great Leader (with Soviet aid) failed miserbly to do in the North. |
No he didn't. By some estimates the North Korean economy was larger than the South Korean economy until 1988. The North Korean economy went to pot with the fall of communism which eliminated communist block trade. Without the United States as a trading partner South Korea would have gone the same way. |
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makushi

Joined: 08 Jun 2003
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Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 1:01 am Post subject: |
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the_beaver wrote: |
By some estimates the North Korean economy was larger than the South Korean economy until 1988. The North Korean economy went to pot with the fall of communism which eliminated communist block trade. Without the United States as a trading partner South Korea would have gone the same way. |
Where's your proof furry one?
In 1988 Korea was exporting cars, ships, steel, semiconductors and just about everything else to hundreds of countries around the world.
What was were our brothers in the north exporting?...the NK economy rose and fell with that of the Soviet Union...which was forced to buy substandard NK crap...in return for continued NK allegiance. |
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posco's trumpet
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