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[regicide]

There was the paper by the two professors from Harvard and the University of Chicago last year. The debate goes on.

Michael Parenti, author of The Culture Struggle and Superpatriotism
"This is an eye-opening, must-read book for every advocate of democracy and every opponent of imperialism"

This book by a left-of-center author analyzes and documents of the power of Israel via the Israeli, Jewish and Pro-Zionist Lobbies on US Middle East policy. It questions the primary beneficiary of US policy, and its destructive results for the United States. It explores the extraordinary extent of US political, economic, military and diplomatic support for the state of Israel, along with the means whereby such support is generated and consolidated. Zionist power in America ensures unconditional US backing for Israeli colonization of Palestine and its massive uprooting of Palestinians. It contends that the interests of Israel rather than those of Big Oil are the primary cause of the disastrous US wars against Iraq and threats of war against Iran and Syria. It also explores the AIPAC spying scandal and other Israeli espionage against America. It questions the inability in America to sustain or even formulate a discourse related to the subject of Israeli influence on the United States. Finally, it calls for a review of American Mid East policy with a view to reclaiming US independence of action based upon enlightened self-interest and progressive principles.

[contrarian]

Looks like another anti-Semetic troll is cruising by!

[regicide]

[contrarian]

Ho Hum! Same old, same old.

Where do you get your cr@p? Zundel or Rense?

[regicide]

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[Axl Rose]

presumably "the two professors [who wrote the article in the OP] from Harvard and the University of Chicago last year" are also Daves trolls, eh Contrarian?

in fact, you've pretty much proved the point the thread intends to make. Thanks for reinforcing it.

[Adventurer]

Recently, a Jewish lobby was formed to counteract the lobby that the original poster formed. I consider the mainstream right wing lobbies to be representing values anti-thetical to universal Jewish values of working for the larger good of people, promoting understand, equality, and fighting injustice just like those Jews who died fighting for civil rights in the South. I believe Bronfman was trying to set up a counter group.
There can be no denying of Jewish power. Bronfman a book he wrote talked about how the WJC was instrumental in encouraging Reagan to have the Jewish Russians go to Israel instead of the U.S. where they really wanted to go because Israel needed more citizens. It is understandable, Reagan was helping an ally, it didn't have to take in those Russians, but it does show Israel does carry favour with the U.S. and will listen, but it has the choice to listen or not to a large extent.

Some of the big whigs are definitely opposite, in spirit, of the Jews who fought for the unions, African Americans, including those who helped build the NAACP, helped build the U.N. etc.... There are good and bad organizations. I think many Israelis consider some of the lobby groups to be interfering in an adverse way in simply just apologizing for whatever Israeli government is in power i.e. to keep the dirty laundry away from the public, and they will attack those in the community who don't agree with them. AIPAC is definitely one of the more powerful organizations like the NRA. Yes, the Arab Gulf states do have their lobbying power as well, and it is influential somewhat, but they are not in the same good graces as the Jews for many reasons including an image problem, a long history of Jews and Christians living together etc...

Some people who attack Jewish power wielded by some segments of Jewry are in fact anti-Semitic but some are not and some of them are Jews who want a different voice representing them. The ones who strongly associate with AIPAC will, of course, be quite upset with any criticism and try to use the race card. That is not a way for dialogue, but they are not interested in dialogue with their adversaries be the Jews or non-Jews. It is that simple.

If you blame the lobby for a lack of peace and say America is not responsible because of the Jews, if that is what you mean OP than that would be anti-Semitism.

[ddeubel]

I think Israel is in good hands......I give you proof, Mr. Peretz the Min. of Defense himself who repeatedly said, "Yes, Yes, Yes, " nodding and putting his binoculars back up, as his chief of staff told him what was in the distance beyond the Golan Heights.




It is all about posturing and profit, nothing about vision, peace and horizon/future. America or in Israel. Both led by corrupt politicians who just feed at the trough.

DD

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