Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Laptop battery - good practices

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Technology Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Laptop battery - good practices Reply with quote

I'm new to laptops and recently purchased a second hand laptop. I know that with many battery run products one is encouraged to regularly let the battery run out rather than doing a partial recharge. Is this the case with laptop batteries?

Basically I would like to keep my battery life as long as I can. Currently it's good for 2 hours under a reasonable load.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They say the new Li batteries don't have this "memory" but I think that's crap. Some laptop manuals recommend not recharging until the batter falls below 50%. Batteries, I think, regardless of what % you start the charge, do have a limited number of times you can discharge/charge them, like 1000 times or something. So if you're going on battery and then plugging in your laptop twice a day, you'll probably wear out your battery in a year or so.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Batteries, I think, regardless of what % you start the charge, do have a limited number of times you can discharge/charge them, like 1000 times or something


While it is true that batteries have a limited number of cycles, a half discharge and recharge only counts as half a cycle.

Most manufacturers recommend a few charge > discharge > charge cycles when you first use it.

The only reason to flatten it is so the software can reset its flat point and give a more accurate representation of charge time left. This needs to be done rarely, or never if you dont care about it drifting by a bit.

Worth a read here

http://www.batteryuniversity.com/

h
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mnhnhyouh wrote:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/

Interesting link, thanks
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my apple suggest i should calibrate the battery for my macbook every two months. I notice that the method for doing that changes from notebook to notebook. Look up how to do it at the manufacturers website.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally drain my batteries on anything that takes batteries and i seem to get good battery life. I always drain my batteries on my hand phone and their battery life is almost as good when i first bought it three years ago.
I do the same with my camcorder battery, it is a infolithium type, and what i have noticed is that if i haven't used it for a long time then its charge is not very strong. but once i drain it and charge it a few times in a row then the batteries charge improves to almost the original amount.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My suggestion: remove your laptop battery if you're just using it as a desktop.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlb wrote:
My suggestion: remove your laptop battery if you're just using it as a desktop.

if you're using a laptop as a desktop it would be better to buy a desktop rather than waste money on something that is not as good.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gatsby



Joined: 09 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen a variety of views from "reputable" sources on lithium battery use. Do an internet search and you will probably find some of them.

The most important thing is to understand that the advice to deep discharge batteries applied to the old nickel cadmium batteries, and then you only needed to do it occasionally. It was called "memory effect." If you only did a shallow discharge every time on something like a cordless phone, you might notice the shorter time you could use the batteries.

One chart on lithium batteries I saw indicated the batteries lasted longer the less you discharged them each use.

What I do know is I got a digital camera with two lithium batteries. I ran the batteries down until the camera stopped working each time, and then changed the batteries. Both batteries lasted about a year, which is not good.

I got two replacement batteries. I now charge them every week or so, regardless of how much use they have had. They are holding up fine. I have heard that lithium batteries should have a life of about 300 charges or so. So if I charge them every week, that's six years life, or so. Sounds good to me.

But if your laptop is going from charge to light discharge every day, even when it is plugged in, I'm not sure that's so good.

I guess the life of the laptop battery is ultimately contingent on the battery charger circuit in the laptop. My guess is there is a trickle charge whenever the laptop is plugged in. Check your manual.

Now if you are a laptop maker, wouldn't you have an incentive to get customers to buy a new proprietary laptop battery at $150 every year or so?

So I just take the battery out when I don't need it. And it is holding up fine after six years.

On the other hand, I believe the instruction manual for the computer said something about doing a complete charge discharge cycle with the new battery. So I suggest you read your manual, and follow the advice.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
jlb wrote:
My suggestion: remove your laptop battery if you're just using it as a desktop.

if you're using a laptop as a desktop it would be better to buy a desktop rather than waste money on something that is not as good.


I'd for sure agree with you. However, I use my laptop as a laptop on occasion but it just happens that in Korea I very rarely take it outside of my house. Plus, how could I travel the world with a desktop? A laptop is just more convenient if you move around a lot.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jlb wrote:
Plus, how could I travel the world with a desktop? A laptop is just more convenient if you move around a lot.

pack it up and check it at the airport. Simple and you'll have a better machine than a laptop. If the only time you need to move your laptop is when you move to a new country you don't need a laptop.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Technology Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International