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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:57 pm Post subject: Possible Porn Ban for Military Services |
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http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Bill_seeks_to_jack_soldiers_off_0426.html
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"Pro-family" organizations and members of Congress are continuing the push to limit the range of reading materials available to members of the military.
House Rep. Paul Broun (GA-10), with 15 co-sponsors and the support of organizations such as the Alliance Defense Fund and the American Family Association, recently introduced a bill that would strengthen the ban on sales of adult-themed publications on U.S. military installations.
While the National Defense Authorization Act of 1997 bans the sale of "sexually explicit material" on property under Department of Defense jurisdiction, the Pentagon doesn't consider certain items explicit enough to take off of base store shelves; a certain percentage of a film or magazine's content would have to be considered "sexually explicit" for sale or rental to be barred.
Rep. Broun has introduced H.R. 5821, also known as the Military Honor and Decency Act, which would close what he calls a loophole that allows the continued distribution of pornography to soldiers, to their moral detriment, with the help of taxpayer funds.
"As a Marine, I am deeply concerned for the welfare of our troops and their mission," Broun said on April 17. "Allowing the sale of pornography on military bases has harmed military men and women by: escalating the number of violent, sexual crimes; feeding a base addiction; eroding the family as the primary building block of society; and denigrating the moral standing of our troops both here and abroad. Our troops should not see their honor sullied so that the moguls behind magazines like Playboy and Penthouse can profit. The �Military Honor and Decency Act� will right a bureaucratic--and moral--wrong."
"We're asking these people to risk their lives to defend our Constitution's principles," said law school professor and ACLU head Nadine Strossen to USA Today last November, "and they're being denied their own First Amendment rights to choose what they read."
"Let me get this straight," The Carpetbagger Report's Steve Benen added. "U.S. troops are fighting two wars, neither of which are going well, and the American Family Association�s biggest concern is what kind of magazines the troops can purchase on base?
"Here�s a radical idea: maybe those who wear the uniform and put their lives on the line for their country should be able to read whatever they want." |
Wow. Because the real enemy is boobies.
Here's some more links...
The bill itself...
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.5821:..
Paul Broun
http://broun.house.gov/
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/cgi-bin/newmemberbio.cgi?lang=&member=GA10&site=ctc
Please, if any of you have the opportunity to vote against this man do so at your first opportunity. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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I hear Al-Qaeda is working on a secret initiative to finally defeat America and push them out of the middle east.
Rumor has is that Al-Qeada is working on an playboy spread comprised entirely of naked islamic boobies. The only thing that is keeping them from bringing this most diabolical of plans to fruition is the difficulty in finding muslim women willing to bare their breasts and then be summarily stoned to death. |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| There are a number of women of Arabic/Middle Eastern descent who have made porn in the US already. Maybe that's why they hate us. |
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mindmetoo
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Reminds me a bit a couple years ago when the FBI got the directive to start assembling a task force to clamp down on pornography. 2008 is a different world than 1986 when Meese claimed Playboy was gateway child porn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney_General's_Commission_on_Pornography
What adult male is not a consumer of pornography, from videos to porn web sites? To ask your rank 'n' file FBI guy who has been told the biggest threat to America is terrorism to suddenly devote time to putting Seymour Butts behind bars was too much for them to handle. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| What about the fertility clinic at a military hospital? |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:29 pm Post subject: Re: Possible Porn Ban for Military Services |
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| Czarjorge wrote: |
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Bill_seeks_to_jack_soldiers_off_0426.html
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"Pro-family" organizations and members of Congress are continuing the push to limit the range of reading materials available to members of the military.
House Rep. Paul Broun (GA-10), with 15 co-sponsors and the support of organizations such as the Alliance Defense Fund and the American Family Association, recently introduced a bill that would strengthen the ban on sales of adult-themed publications on U.S. military installations.
While the National Defense Authorization Act of 1997 bans the sale of "sexually explicit material" on property under Department of Defense jurisdiction, the Pentagon doesn't consider certain items explicit enough to take off of base store shelves; a certain percentage of a film or magazine's content would have to be considered "sexually explicit" for sale or rental to be barred.
Rep. Broun has introduced H.R. 5821, also known as the Military Honor and Decency Act, which would close what he calls a loophole that allows the continued distribution of pornography to soldiers, to their moral detriment, with the help of taxpayer funds.
"As a Marine, I am deeply concerned for the welfare of our troops and their mission," Broun said on April 17. "Allowing the sale of pornography on military bases has harmed military men and women by: escalating the number of violent, sexual crimes; feeding a base addiction; eroding the family as the primary building block of society; and denigrating the moral standing of our troops both here and abroad. Our troops should not see their honor sullied so that the moguls behind magazines like Playboy and Penthouse can profit. The �Military Honor and Decency Act� will right a bureaucratic--and moral--wrong."
"We're asking these people to risk their lives to defend our Constitution's principles," said law school professor and ACLU head Nadine Strossen to USA Today last November, "and they're being denied their own First Amendment rights to choose what they read."
"Let me get this straight," The Carpetbagger Report's Steve Benen added. "U.S. troops are fighting two wars, neither of which are going well, and the American Family Association�s biggest concern is what kind of magazines the troops can purchase on base?
"Here�s a radical idea: maybe those who wear the uniform and put their lives on the line for their country should be able to read whatever they want." |
Wow. Because the real enemy is boobies.
Here's some more links...
The bill itself...
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.5821:..
Paul Broun
http://broun.house.gov/
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/cgi-bin/newmemberbio.cgi?lang=&member=GA10&site=ctc
Please, if any of you have the opportunity to vote against this man do so at your first opportunity. |
Playboy and Penthouse are not pornography. No erection no pentration= not pornography.
The rise in rapes has more to do with the fact that today soldiers do not have access to any way of relieving their desires. In the past the military turned a blind eye to prostitution.
I smell Tipper Gore somewhere here. |
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friendoken
Joined: 19 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Possible Porn Ban for Military Services |
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[quote="Fishead soup"]
| Czarjorge wrote: |
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Bill_seeks_to_jack_soldiers_off_0426.html
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"Pro-family" organizations and members of Congress are continuing the push to limit the range of reading materials available to members of the military.
House Rep. Paul Broun (GA-10), with 15 co-sponsors and the support of organizations such as the Alliance Defense Fund and the American Family Association, recently introduced a bill that would strengthen the ban on sales of adult-themed publications on U.S. military installations.
While the National Defense Authorization Act of 1997 bans the sale of "sexually explicit material" on property under Department of Defense jurisdiction, the Pentagon doesn't consider certain items explicit enough to take off of base store shelves; a certain percentage of a film or magazine's content would have to be considered "sexually explicit" for sale or rental to be barred.
Rep. Broun has introduced H.R. 5821, also known as the Military Honor and Decency Act, which would close what he calls a loophole that allows the continued distribution of pornography to soldiers, to their moral detriment, with the help of taxpayer funds.
"As a Marine, I am deeply concerned for the welfare of our troops and their mission," Broun said on April 17. "Allowing the sale of pornography on military bases has harmed military men and women by: escalating the number of violent, sexual crimes; feeding a base addiction; eroding the family as the primary building block of society; and denigrating the moral standing of our troops both here and abroad. Our troops should not see their honor sullied so that the moguls behind magazines like Playboy and Penthouse can profit. The �Military Honor and Decency Act� will right a bureaucratic--and moral--wrong."
"We're asking these people to risk their lives to defend our Constitution's principles," said law school professor and ACLU head Nadine Strossen to USA Today last November, "and they're being denied their own First Amendment rights to choose what they read."
"Let me get this straight," The Carpetbagger Report's Steve Benen added. "U.S. troops are fighting two wars, neither of which are going well, and the American Family Association�s biggest concern is what kind of magazines the troops can purchase on base?
"Here�s a radical idea: maybe those who wear the uniform and put their lives on the line for their country should be able to read whatever they want." |
Wow. Because the real enemy is boobies.
Here's some more links...
The bill itself...
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.5821:..
Paul Broun
http://broun.house.gov/
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/cgi-bin/newmemberbio.cgi?lang=&member=GA10&site=ctc
Please, if any of you have the opportunity to vote against this man do so at your first opportunity. |
Playboy and Penthouse are not pornography. No erection no pentration= not pornography.
The rise in rapes has more to do with the fact that today soldiers do not have access to any way of relieving their desires. In the past the military turned a blind eye to prostitution.
I smell Tipper Gore somewhere here.[/quote]
No pun intended!!!! |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Soldier suicides are thru the roof, and they want to waste time on porn?
What is this, a kleptocracy? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Possible Porn Ban for Military Services |
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| friendoken wrote: |
| Playboy and Penthouse are not pornography. No erection no pentration= not pornography. |
Interesting definition you have of it. I wonder if the federal government's using the same definition.
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| The rise in rapes has more to do with the fact that today soldiers do not have access to any way of relieving their desires. |
I'd also love to know where you pulled this from. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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I think the jury's still out on the link between porn and sexual crime. So far, all the data we've got points away from it.
I might be convinced that particularly violent or hateful porn is bad for society, but watching consentual adults enthusiastically getting it on or looking at pictures of nekkid ladies... doesn't seem likely that it would encourage dangerous behaviour. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I know the solution. Compulsory castration for all male recruits. |
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dirty_scraps83
Joined: 02 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| The French had the right idea. BMC (Bordel Militaire Control�/Bordel Mobile de Campagne) translated as Controlled Military Brothel/Mobile Campaign Brothel. Brothels run by the military where the whores are tested and controlled. An outbreak of disease can be tracked back to the source and eliminated. They had them in the Algerian War, don�t know about now though. Soldiers overseas want to get their end away. Banning the problem just pushes it underground. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| agentX wrote: |
Soldier suicides are thru the roof, and they want to waste time on porn?
What is this, a kleptocracy? |
Well said. |
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bejarano-korea
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: |
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All squddies love porn! Do you think on our half day off on Wednesday we played sport like we should have done or did we spend all afternoon self abusing ourselves with porn?
The answer is glaringly obvious (Well apart from me because I went and played some sport!  )
It isn't going to work - squaddies and porn - it is like bacon and eggs. |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
Location: Classified
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| Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Possible Porn Ban for Military Services |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
| In the past the military turned a blind eye to prostitution. |
While I was deployed with NATO peacekeepers to Bosnia, a number of female soldiers stationed nearby were court-martialed for prostitution. The military was quite aggressive in their prosecution.
The soldiers were all acquitted at courts-martial. They used the same defense: Each of them denied accepting money for sex. They said that they simply sold condoms for $100 apiece and then provided sex for free.
After they were acquitted, they were immediately charged with (and convicted of) breaking General Order # 1 for U.S. soldiers in the former Yugoslavia, an order which, among other prohibitions, requires deployed soldiers to abstain from sexual relations while in-theater.
They're all still at the Mannhaus. |
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