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Secular tradition prevails in Indonesia

 
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Secular tradition prevails in Indonesia Reply with quote

http://fe16.news.sp1.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070228/wl_nm/indonesia_pornography_dc

Good to see that Indonesia's secular tendancy was upheld and that the Islamicists didn't get their own way. This bill would have been a nightmare and would have provoked more communal tension. As it says towards the bottom of the article, bare-breasted women are a common sight in traditional Balinese and Papuan areas. Subjecting these people to an Islam-inspired, one-size-fits-all morality was never going to work. Bravo to the Indonesian assembly, even if this is the only good thing they have done for a long time. Now to fix up corruption, the failing transport sector, foreign investment, the environment, Jakarta's flood-prone suburbs, communal violence in Poso, the stagnant real sector, allocation of aid to disaster-affected regions and everything else Laughing
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the likelihood that market pressures played a part in this stand? What I mean is, post-Suharto defiance against the international financial community, how true might it be to say that the Assembly found the eyes of the world upon them and decided to stick to tolerance and openness?
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
What is the likelihood that market pressures played a part in this stand? What I mean is, post-Suharto defiance against the international financial community, how true might it be to say that the Assembly found the eyes of the world upon them and decided to stick to tolerance and openness?


I would say it had little or nothing to do with it and its more the MPR waking up to the fact that the secular constitution is something not to be messed with.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
Kuros wrote:
What is the likelihood that market pressures played a part in this stand? What I mean is, post-Suharto defiance against the international financial community, how true might it be to say that the Assembly found the eyes of the world upon them and decided to stick to tolerance and openness?


I would say it had little or nothing to do with it and its more the MPR waking up to the fact that the secular constitution is something not to be messed with.


I think non-Muslims are only 12% of the population. However, they are in certain regions and can get arms to create a serious headache for the government. However, unlike the Sudan where there is a 30% non-Muslim minority they wouldn't necessarily create as many problems for those who want to suppress them. I am not sure. Still the Christians in Indonesia have certain power and are in certain regions and the government knows that and fanatical elements would go after the government eventually, and they know that. Those two factors play into that.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As it says towards the bottom of the article, bare-breasted women are a common sight in traditional Balinese and Papuan areas.


So do people in Bali and Papua go on about how those freedom-stifling Europeans and North Americans force women to cover themselves up with shirts and blouses?
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