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Shortage of Foreign Teachers in Korea
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Shortage of Foreign Teachers in Korea Reply with quote

I have never seen this much demand for foreign English teachers in Korea.

My buddies are getting multiple offers from all kinds of sources, left, right, up, and down! Recruiters and schools are practically begging to fill the positions. With all the increased demand for FTs in public schools, it seems private schools are struggling and even dying to fill the empty positions.

The job market is HOT! Do you feel the heat as well?
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Ronald



Joined: 14 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel it man. I'm getting 10 offers a day. Maybe it's just the time of year. I really think I can get pretty much whatever I want within reason right about now. The Busan and Seoul publics are kinda scarce, but everything else is WIDE open.
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gsxr750r



Joined: 29 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are the unis doing?

We didn't seem to have much trouble filling positions, but that was almost 2 months ago. I imagine the schools that waited are now getting burned. Maybe Koreans will finally learn not to put such things off until the last minute?

Not.
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Return Jones



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: I will see you in far-off places

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And yet, salaries remain the same. Confused
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard from an interviewer yesterday that they're having trouble filling positions because so many people they've been interviewing are difficult to deal with. He didn't specify in what way, but there was North American man at the desk as I was leaving demanding to know when he was going to be offered a contract.

I agree salaries don't seem to be changing for all the "demand" for teachers.
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ella wrote:
I heard from an interviewer yesterday that they're having trouble filling positions because so many people they've been interviewing are difficult to deal with. He didn't specify in what way, but there was North American man at the desk as I was leaving demanding to know when he was going to be offered a contract.

I agree salaries don't seem to be changing for all the "demand" for teachers.


He should have demanded a free lunch while he was at it!
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JeJuJitsu



Joined: 11 Sep 2005
Location: McDonald's

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KIm Jong Il = ESL Korea's Best Friend
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're having trouble in the city, you should try filling a slightly rural position, it's nigh on impossible. As far as salaries go, I understand that there are constant references to how there has been minimal movement in them over the years, but the reality is there is an economy of scale and no matter how good or bad we are or how long we stay, we will eventually reach that point whereby students numbers and payments equals x amount and unless that increase, then our salary can't. I wish it were different, but it isn't. Smile
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Return Jones



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadsac wrote:
...As far as salaries go, I understand that there are constant references to how there has been minimal movement in them over the years, but the reality is there is an economy of scale and no matter how good or bad we are or how long we stay, we will eventually reach that point whereby students numbers and payments equals x amount and unless that increase, then our salary can't. I wish it were different, but it isn't. Smile


This is true for hagwons, but public schools can easily afford to pay more. I've been in public schools for 3 years now. There's plenty of money flowing around, but little more of it is ending up in the foreign teachers' pockets. Sad
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One reason salaries don't keep up with the demand for teachers is called collusion.

Here is a post I made last July that has the key information:

At the end of May, when the school rep was asking if people wanted to extend, there was the (spoken) promise of a 'slight raise'. Now that end of contract time is two weeks away, this is the memo that came round...

***
Please understand our side- public education

If we raised some, even little, the private institute would be angry and get the higher payment than now-----and at the end, the payment for foreign teacher in Korea would be getted the inflation. Whole part of Korea, that's not good...
So give us a break.

You might think that's natural to get a raise for another next period.
But that simple thing make problems because we are very first special education district in Korea.

Many province/city/county now copycat of us.

So we feel that is very sensitive, so we need restraint to mention that matter now.

I feel sorry for you. But Please understand us...
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
One reason salaries don't keep up with the demand for teachers is called collusion.

Here is a post I made last July that has the key information:

At the end of May, when the school rep was asking if people wanted to extend, there was the (spoken) promise of a 'slight raise'. Now that end of contract time is two weeks away, this is the memo that came round...

***
Please understand our side- public education

If we raised some, even little, the private institute would be angry and get the higher payment than now-----and at the end, the payment for foreign teacher in Korea would be getted the inflation. Whole part of Korea, that's not good...
So give us a break.

You might think that's natural to get a raise for another next period.
But that simple thing make problems because we are very first special education district in Korea.

Many province/city/county now copycat of us.

So we feel that is very sensitive, so we need restraint to mention that matter now.

I feel sorry for you. But Please understand us...


But what does the private institution have to do with public schools? So
they raise their wages? Very unlikely as only the big chains could afford to do that long term. And if hakwons raise the wages tution fees would have to go up as well (meaning less students could afford to attend)

And who cares if hakwons are "angry"? The whole thing sounds a rather meagre excuse.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy, that is when you and your co-workers tell them it is impossible for you to work for them at that rate and everyone goes and gets a new job.

The reaction of your school demonstrates why Korean English education is largely a joke. They would rather hire an idiot than give raises to retain people who are doing a good job.
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever happened to that union idea...?
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think unions are illegal for anyone on an E2 visas. Only teachers married to Koreans could form a union.
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chachee99



Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the offers are just pouring in for me too. Also, I have not been receiving many hogwan offers teaching kids, which is a bonus!!!!
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