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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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 Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: To those in Hagwons: don't feel so bad |
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So, I'm sitting here, grading a "level test" for my 5th graders, at a private school where the parents are chucking 10million won per year down the hole for their kids education, when I realize that 1/3 of these little frakkers can't even seperate 15 scrambled words into Adjective, Noun, and Verb categories.
I'm home-schooling when I have kids. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Dude the ESL industry here is a complete joke. And I hope it never changes cause there will always be jobs for all us. |
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I felt guilty when I was working in the kiddie hagwon. It was like I was part of a scam. |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I felt guilty when I was working in the kiddie hagwon. It was like I was part of a scam. |
Ya know, you hit a point where you just have to say, "If the koreans haven't learned by now..."
Because, unlike any other countries, Asia was in the unique position to have great English programs precisely because they had the abortion of Japan's English program right next door. Now, for places like Thailand, Cambodia, etc, the excuse can be made that they're still poor, have low job aspirations, etc. But Korea is flat out suffering from "throw money at it" syndrome.
Now, to be sure, it's working. The next generations will be better at English than the last; but they could have saved *billions* by simply listening to the concerns of waegooks instead of tossing them into the psychic trashbin. |
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Col.Brandon
Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
| ...they could have saved *billions* by simply listening to the concerns of waegooks instead of tossing them into the psychic trashbin. |
So true. I for one am crying all the way to the bank. |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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| Col.Brandon wrote: |
| jdog2050 wrote: |
| ...they could have saved *billions* by simply listening to the concerns of waegooks instead of tossing them into the psychic trashbin. |
So true. I for one am crying all the way to the bank. |
Oh, so thosssseee were the trail of tears I saw this morning. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
| they could have saved *billions* by simply listening to the concerns of waegooks |
But they have the same thought every time: "You are not Korean, so what the hell do you know?" |
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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
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| I felt guilty when I was working in the kiddie hagwon. It was like I was part of a scam. |
Ya know, you hit a point where you just have to say, "If the koreans haven't learned by now..."
Because, unlike any other countries, Asia was in the unique position to have great English programs precisely because they had the abortion of Japan's English program right next door. Now, for places like Thailand, Cambodia, etc, the excuse can be made that they're still poor, have low job aspirations, etc. But Korea is flat out suffering from "throw money at it" syndrome.
Now, to be sure, it's working. The next generations will be better at English than the last; but they could have saved *billions* by simply listening to the concerns of waegooks instead of tossing them into the psychic trashbin. |
Simply? Since when is a total culture transplant simple?
I'm going to skip the part where you say Asia is a country. |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| Paji eh Wong wrote: |
| jdog2050 wrote: |
| Alias wrote: |
| I felt guilty when I was working in the kiddie hagwon. It was like I was part of a scam. |
Ya know, you hit a point where you just have to say, "If the koreans haven't learned by now..."
Because, unlike any other countries, Asia was in the unique position to have great English programs precisely because they had the abortion of Japan's English program right next door. Now, for places like Thailand, Cambodia, etc, the excuse can be made that they're still poor, have low job aspirations, etc. But Korea is flat out suffering from "throw money at it" syndrome.
Now, to be sure, it's working. The next generations will be better at English than the last; but they could have saved *billions* by simply listening to the concerns of waegooks instead of tossing them into the psychic trashbin. |
Simply? Since when is a total culture transplant simple?
I'm going to skip the part where you say Asia is a country. |
Ahh, the limitations of the interwebzbutts...
I didn't at all say asia was a country, I quite literally meant all of Asia since the ESL system in these countries is fairly jacked up in general.
Also, it doesn't take a cultural transplant to look at Japan's ESL system and go..."wow, hey, maybe we shouldn't do that." Hell, considering that the Korean collective mind takes every opportunity to hate Japan, you'd figure that they would have started an awesome esl program and rubbed it in their faces. |
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michi gnome
Joined: 15 Feb 2006
Location: Dokdo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: |
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| i don't know...if the tables were turned, & kids in the west were forced to attend a Korean or Japanese academy several hours a week, does anyone really think they'd be doing any better? |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| michi gnome wrote: |
| i don't know...if the tables were turned, & kids in the west were forced to attend a Korean or Japanese academy several hours a week, does anyone really think they'd be doing any better? |
You mean like European kids who learn to speak excellent English (flawless in the case of the Dutch). |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:50 am Post subject: Re: To those in Hagwons: don't feel so bad |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
So, I'm sitting here, grading a "level test" for my 5th graders, at a private school where the parents are chucking 10million won per year down the hole for their kids education, when I realize that 1/3 of these little frakkers can't even seperate 15 scrambled words into Adjective, Noun, and Verb categories.
I'm home-schooling when I have kids. |
So, you're a failure. Thanks for letting us know.
Guess you want your kids to turn out retarded, too. |
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Vancouver
Joined: 12 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: To those in Hagwons: don't feel so bad |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
So, I'm sitting here, grading a "level test" for my 5th graders, at a private school where the parents are chucking 10million won per year down the hole for their kids education, when I realize that 1/3 of these little frakkers can't even seperate 15 scrambled words into Adjective, Noun, and Verb categories.
I'm home-schooling when I have kids. |
looks like someone's been watching BSG |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: To those in Hagwons: don't feel so bad |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| jdog2050 wrote: |
So, I'm sitting here, grading a "level test" for my 5th graders, at a private school where the parents are chucking 10million won per year down the hole for their kids education, when I realize that 1/3 of these little frakkers can't even seperate 15 scrambled words into Adjective, Noun, and Verb categories.
I'm home-schooling when I have kids. |
So, you're a failure. Thanks for letting us know.
Guess you want your kids to turn out retarded, too. |
Omg!!! Internet Tough guy, look out! lol, I wasn't even their teacher last year. |
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The Dude from Canada
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Don't put down JDog. He's got a good point. Compared to the rest of you losers he doesn't try to convince himself that he is playing an important role. Nor that he (or she) is the 'man' in front of a class full of dull witted korean students.
Perhaps considering the half wits in korean classrooms, it would explain why the rest of you have such a nice time in the classroom. |
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