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Adventurer
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 Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: Letter of release... getting one |
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| Many contracts say if you get notice, you can get released. I have a friend in that situation. She wants out, but how can she prove she asked for it. The Korean owner can deny that. Is there a way? |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| She should ask for a post-dated LOR in exchange for not doing a runner. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Good one.
How about a postdated check for salary, too? |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
Good one.
How about a postdated check for salary, too? |
I think that is what I was thinking. These hagwon owners are like poker players and often not good ones, and if you just learn half the rules, you can have a full house and the goods.
For many Canadians, as far as I know, if you have cash lying around and the situation is bad, you can do a runner after putting your stuff somewhere with a friend, sign a contract with another decent place, and then do another visa trip.
Considering the bad behaviour of many hagwon owners, I will be renewing my Canadian passport. It is much better than using my U.S. passport. |
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English_Ocean
Joined: 17 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: |
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A postdated LOR. Now that's a great ideal!  |
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ontheway
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:32 am Post subject: |
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A post dated letter of release is a bad idea. Employers will not give you one. Why should they?
If you are breaking a contract with a good school, then they have no reason to trust you with such a letter. They will refuse. You are the one breaking the deal and the one who is not trustworthy.
If you are breaking a contract with a bad school, they are probably more crooked than you, which means they would expect you to run right after receiving the letter, so why bother giving it. You'll just run anyway.
Just get it in writing that they will pay you and give you a letter on your last day. That is reasonable.
To the OP: your friend should resign in writing and write up an agreement as to the last day and other terms including a letter of release to be given on the last day. |
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wylies99
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Great ideas, IF you're dealing with an honest owner/director.
OP-expect an ugly battle. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
A post dated letter of release is a bad idea. Employers will not give you one. Why should they?
If you are breaking a contract with a good school, then they have no reason to trust you with such a letter. They will refuse. You are the one breaking the deal and the one who is not trustworthy.
If you are breaking a contract with a bad school, they are probably more crooked than you, which means they would expect you to run right after receiving the letter, so why bother giving it. You'll just run anyway.
Just get it in writing that they will pay you and give you a letter on your last day. That is reasonable.
To the OP: your friend should resign in writing and write up an agreement as to the last day and other terms including a letter of release to be given on the last day. |
I think all your ideas were good except the last one. I advised her to pack her stuff in boxes to get ready to move out if necessary, stay working there, and then go to the Labour Board and say she asked for a letter of release, but she didn't get one, so they can essentially release her. You can't really focus on getting in writing with someone you are having problems with to give you a letter. She has to essentially talk to the government at this point. She wasn't trying to run away. She give her 20 working days of notice. This lady can't find someone, it is not her problem. The lady has been blaming her for her hagwon's problems when she didn't run the place well. She wants out, she did her time, gave her notice and doesn't like being used as a scape goat. Would going to the Labour Board help her get said letter officially via the government? Her contract said to give notice to be released. She did. |
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