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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Pulling the contract out Reply with quote

Things are cranking along nicely at my middle school. The teachers and staff are friendly and polite, the kids are energetic and wide-eyed with enthusiasm. I have my own office space with a good laptop. Lunch is pretty good.

Whoever is responsible for my schedules has included me as part of the scene on Saturdays. It's not that I really even mind coming in for a class or two on every second Saturday, it's just the principle. On SMOE, this is breaching my contract. I wouldn't go asking them for more overtime pay, or tweaking my contracted hours, yet it's OK for them to bend the rules to fit their schedule?

Next question. How do I go about politely and non-confrontationally informing someone that working Saturdays is a breach of my contract? Who should I talk to first? It sucks that this has happened, hopefully it doesn't lead to whispers of the lazy foreigner in the corridors, when I pull contract.

Any thoughts?

Chur
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing to get upset about.

If you don't mind getting extra overtime pay, just tell them nicely to pay up. But if you don't want to even bother on Saturday, f'em. Don't show up and if they ask why, tell them you don't have to and show them your contract.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about going to your co-teacher, your best fake smile firmly pasted in place and saying there seems to be a mistake on the schedule. You've 'suddenly' noticed that you are on the schedule for Saturdays and aren't supposed to be.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a middle school right? Not a hagwon. Public schools are a lot better at seeing your side and just being direct should work "I don't work Saturdays. Look!"
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the advice homies. I just thought I'd ask before I psyched myself up with the coprophagous smile and pseudo surprise in case there was a better way.

I'll post how the event goes tomorrow as I expect there are a few people on new public systems contracts in similar situations.

I have six co-teachers, I'll choose the least sensitive, but I'm still looking forward to the kicked brown eyed puppy look.


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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Re: Pulling the contract out Reply with quote

Rapacious Mr. Batstove wrote:
Things are cranking along nicely at my middle school. The teachers and staff are friendly and polite, the kids are energetic and wide-eyed with enthusiasm. I have my own office space with a good laptop. Lunch is pretty good.

Whoever is responsible for my schedules has included me as part of the scene on Saturdays. It's not that I really even mind coming in for a class or two on every second Saturday, it's just the principle. On SMOE, this is breaching my contract. I wouldn't go asking them for more overtime pay, or tweaking my contracted hours, yet it's OK for them to bend the rules to fit their schedule?

Next question. How do I go about politely and non-confrontationally informing someone that working Saturdays is a breach of my contract? Who should I talk to first? It sucks that this has happened, hopefully it doesn't lead to whispers of the lazy foreigner in the corridors, when I pull contract.

Any thoughts?

Chur


1.피고용자는 일일8시간, 주 5일을 근무하며, 토요일, 일요일 및 대한민국 휴일에는 근무하지 않는다.

Employee shall work eight (Cool hours per day for five (5) calendar days per week from Monday to Friday and shall not work on Saturdays, Sundays and Korean national holidays.

Dig it out.....or bite the bullet and eat crap.

Let this pass and they will include weekends as part of your holiday time too.
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mission accomplished. Had a copy of the contract ready and waiting but I didn't need to pull it out. I went for the 'there is a mistake on my schedule' approach. Followed with, 'I will always honor the contract and I expect the school to do the same, and the contract is NOT flexible'.

I picked out the most easily influenced co-teacher and talked through her ohhhs and ummms until the point was made.

"You better not come in tomorrow then"

Game, set, match. Batstove
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That wasn't hard then was it? Smile

That reminds me of the teacher in charge of my schedule giving my my winter camp timetable. There was no vacation time in it!! When I asked what days I would get as vacation she said, 'Oh no vacation for you'!! It was easy to sort out though. A simple, "No I get two weeks" "Oh yeah check my contract." Smile
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Bingo



Joined: 22 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like last year GEPIK arranged a teacher workshop in Suwon (for Friday evening and Saturday morning. I said to the school that I do not work Saturdays. "This isn't work. It's a treacher workshop." Rolling Eyes I insisted that anything associated to work that I must attend is work. My contract says very clearly that I do not work on weekends. My weekend streches from 4:30 on Friday to 8:30 on Monday. Demanding that I attend a workshop in a distant city on Friday and Saturday is WORK.

The principle really tried to make me go, but I put down my foot with a firn "no."

Give them an inch and they'll take a foot. I even had a hogwan owner once try to pressure me into working on Christmas Day. "Help the school," he said. Rolling Eyes
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rokricky



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: Yongsan, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them politely, you are very happy to focus and devote your time---or better yet: work "diligently", for twenty hours a week (or whatever your contract states) from Monday to Friday 9am-5pm. And then flash them a kind grin.....and then flex your muscles to scare them away.
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next time they schedule you on saturday, tell them you are busy. You can't come in. It's your day off.
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dmbfan



Joined: 09 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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, 'I will always honor the contract and I expect the school to do the same, and the contract is NOT flexible'.




O.P. , I respect that you have stood your ground. They should not make you do anything that is not in your contract. HOWEVER, what if there is something you may want or need in the future? For example, a couple of extra vacation days? A sick day, after you have used them up? Or, being able to leave early on a Friday, so you can catch the train without any hassles? After all, you just told them the "contract is not flexible".

Becarefull, ok? It could bite you in the ass.

Cheers.

dmbfan
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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O.P. , I respect that you have stood your ground. They should not make you do anything that is not in your contract. HOWEVER, what if there is something you may want or need in the future? For example, a couple of extra vacation days? A sick day, after you have used them up? Or, being able to leave early on a Friday, so you can catch the train without any hassles? After all, you just told them the "contract is not flexible".

Becarefull, ok? It could bite you in the ass.

Cheers.


ru kidding me? I did the reverse of what the OP did because my contract said you must be at the school 40 mins b4 ur first class and when i pulled contract, they threatened to fire me among other things. I was not given vacation days, sick days and never caught an early train. Im happy i left korea, now i get to boss them around in my country
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dmbfan



Joined: 09 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ru kidding me? I did the reverse of what the OP did because my contract said you must be at the school 40 mins b4 ur first class and when i pulled contract, they threatened to fire me among other things. I was not given vacation days, sick days and never caught an early train. Im happy i left korea, now i get to boss them around in my country




Well, then that is your fault for signing a bad contract.

Cheers.

dmbfan
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, then that is your fault for signing a bad contract.

Cheers.

dmbfan


bit me dmbfan, the contract i signed was fine if the school stuck to it, which they didnt
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