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mr_scarlett



Joined: 12 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Medical Checks Reply with quote

Today my director asked me and my the other foreign teachers to take medical examinations to check for diseases and whatever else. Was wondering if anyone else has been asked to do this or if it is even common practice in Hagwons.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Common. Also, if you don't want med info shared with him/her, go to a doctor of YOUR choice. If you are outside of Seoul, go to another city if you want medical privacy.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a 'full physical' last year to get my public school job.
It was ridiculously simple.

Teeth...."How are you teeth?" "fine". Tick.
"Are you crazy?" "No." Tick.
"Do you have good bowel movements?" "Superb thank you." Tick.
"Are you addicted to anything?" "Tobacco" Tick.

It cost me about 28000 won all in. The trick though, is to make them understand what you want. Don't get your hakwon to write you a note though. It will likely include something that say, call us with the patients personal information. Get a friend to do it.
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jmbran11



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we start work, we get a full physical, including blood and urine tests, heart tests, vision, hearing, etc. The results are sent directly to our employer and we must do this at the hospital they designate. The only good part is that we don't have to pay anything for it.

However, I don't work at a hogwan, and I think that sounds overly-invasive for the needs of the job. Is there anything in your contract about your job being conditioned on passing a medical evaluation? Do you know the purpose? (E.g. foreigners are taking excessive sick days, your employer wants a drug test done, or some parent read an article that foreigners are contagious). I assume that if your employer is requesting this, he/she is going to insist that he/she receives the results.

Frankly, I don't see the point at all. But, at the very least, you shouldn't have to pay for anything if it's not in your contract. And, if by chance you are worried about testing positive for narcotics use, stall or refuse. You could try explaining that Westerners view medical information as very private and it's a sign of distrust to request it (or something along those lines).
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Medical Checks Reply with quote

mr_scarlett wrote:
Today my director asked me and my the other foreign teachers to take medical examinations to check for diseases and whatever else. Was wondering if anyone else has been asked to do this or if it is even common practice in Hagwons.


Tell him to get lost. There are many many hagwon jobs out there. He can NOT require you to do this (unless it is in your contract). And tell him you are not paying.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point. Is the requirement for a medical listed in your contract? No. Don't do it...
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do a runner. Ha, ha, ha.
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Korea, businesses are supposed to provide check-ups to their employees every two years. It is free.

As far as I know, you do not have to participate but it can be helpful. They did catch something I had and I was able to get free or near free medical treatment for it because it was caught at this check-up.

For all I know, if you do not take the exam, it may have an effect on your medical insurance (don't know if it does or what) but it should not have any effect between you and your boss.

This law should effect all employees and if the other employees are not participating then there might be something dodgy going on. See if others are involved or not.
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dmbfan



Joined: 09 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.......I work for a public school and have yet to have a physical.


Actually, I recently came back from Cambodia, for a vacation. It would be a shame if they gave me a surprise urine test tomorrow Sad


Cheers.


dmbfan
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Actually, I recently came back from Cambodia, for a vacation. It would be a shame if they gave me a surprise urine test tomorrow


I don't know how the employers would require you to take a surprise test. As for the police, from what I've read, if you show up positive for a drug test but have recently been out of the country, they understand you didn't use drugs in Korea, didn't break Korean law and they don't take it any further. The only reason the cops would test you is if someone narced on you for doing or having drugs in Korea.
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Common. Also, if you don't want med info shared with him/her, go to a doctor of YOUR choice. If you are outside of Seoul, go to another city if you want medical privacy.


Umm...this can be bad advice as one of the teachers did that last year and they would not accept her medical because it was not from a doctor that was on the list given to the teacher.

I am not saying this is the case for every school but it was in our city. The give you a list of doctors/hospitals you can go to and you can choose which of those you can got to. Also, might want to be sure they don't just send it to the school. Send it to the school nurse. I do know personally of one person that had their medical sent to school and it was on VP desk and everyone pretty much could read it if they wanted.

So I think it depends on the school.

Jade
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mr_scarlett



Joined: 12 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry i forgot to say i have been here for 10 months. I guess it is just a routine health check for all employees. The lines of communication in my school are terrible it is almost impossible to get a straight answer from even the foreign teacher supervisor.

Thanks for your help everyone. I think i will make the most of the free health check.
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gsxr750r



Joined: 29 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have been out of country, returned to your job after taking drugs, and you are tested, do not expect to stay in Korea after you are caught.

In fact, plan on sitting in prison until they figure out when to deport you, and how much they may fine you.

I would say the person above who said not to worry so much if you can show you've been out of country has been given some bad information.

On another note, I don't know what they check with the blood test, but the pee test during the bi-yearly physical was a huge joke. On both occasions when I've taken mine, the restroom was filled vials from people who were merely following directions and leaving their pee sitting in a stand next to the urinal until picked up. Anyone could easily choose any of the vials when nobody was looking, fill theirs up with part of someone else's pee, and nobody could tell. This was a large health testing center. The other place was at a hosptial near Seohyun in Bundang. Both had lots and lots of people there for physicals daily, and both had no security whatsoever.

Utter absolute joke of a test.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: Medical Checks Reply with quote

mr_scarlett wrote:
Today my director asked me and my the other foreign teachers to take medical examinations to check for diseases and whatever else. Was wondering if anyone else has been asked to do this or if it is even common practice in Hagwons.


Tell your boss that you want all your students, the secretary, the Korean teachers, him, his family, the drivers, and everyone in your neighborhood to take a medical test and that you want all the results on your desk by Monday.
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gsxr750r



Joined: 29 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: Medical Checks Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
mr_scarlett wrote:
Today my director asked me and my the other foreign teachers to take medical examinations to check for diseases and whatever else. Was wondering if anyone else has been asked to do this or if it is even common practice in Hagwons.


Tell your boss that you want all your students, the secretary, the Korean teachers, him, his family, the drivers, and everyone in your neighborhood to take a medical test and that you want all the results on your desk by Monday.


They probably already did.

I've jumped on every free medical test. They are a great thing, IMHO.
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