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toddswift

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: The END. |
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So what is going to happen here, I mean in the next 20 years?
I am sure China is gonna want to take this place over, and they are already claiming parts of NOrth Korea, and Japan is already so far ahead of Korea with Technology, Korea already knows they are caught in the middle of emerging China and the tech gap with Japan is getting wider and wider...........
To me it looks pretty hopeless. I think this is the golden age of Korea. As China grows, it will have no place to go, except down. I think the people know it too. The seem to be in a sweat to learn English and Chinese, they are trying to stay competitive, but in the end I think they will be swallowed up, and as China outsells them on everything (cars, chips, ships, appliances, etc...) Korea will hit rock bottom and go through another crisis. I would not be surprised if in 50 years this place is like Thailand, with the bar girls being the main attraction to get some money from the outside. |
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forever_young
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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| this guy's doing some serious talking out of his arsehole... |
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pkang0202

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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Everything you said could be applied to the US.
I think Korea will be fine. You look at what this country has accomplished in just 50 years. Adapting is what Asians do best.
The real question is, what are Middle Eastern countries gonna do when they run out of oil? |
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jvalmer

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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: |
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| China has had 2000 years to take over Korea. But, it has never quite succeeded. Korea will be around for quite a while. The only countries in Asia I see in danger of being taken over by China is Taiwan and Russia's Asian territories. |
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toddswift

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| forever_young wrote: |
| this guy's doing some serious talking out of his arsehole... |
Sorry to put down your country, but thats the future I see. But you might be in luck, you could open up a dry cleaning service, and tell jokes to the westerners. |
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forever_young
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| toddswift wrote: |
| forever_young wrote: |
| this guy's doing some serious talking out of his arsehole... |
Sorry to put down your country, but thats the future I see. But you might be in luck, you could open up a dry cleaning service, and tell jokes to the westerners. |
why dry cleaning? |
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doggyji

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: Re: The END. |
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| toddswift wrote: |
| I am sure China is gonna want to take this place over, and they are already claiming parts of North Korea. |
Since when? |
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jaganath69

Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
Everything you said could be applied to the US.
I think Korea will be fine. You look at what this country has accomplished in just 50 years. Adapting is what Asians do best.
The real question is, what are Middle Eastern countries gonna do when they run out of oil? |
Gosh Earl, would'ya look at those Asians, ain't they just so gosh darn cute and adaptable? |
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jaganath69

Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:05 am Post subject: |
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| forever_young wrote: |
| toddswift wrote: |
| forever_young wrote: |
| this guy's doing some serious talking out of his arsehole... |
Sorry to put down your country, but thats the future I see. But you might be in luck, you could open up a dry cleaning service, and tell jokes to the westerners. |
why dry cleaning? |
Yeah, you should be selling rotten produce to the ghetto rats, dammit! You can buy your burgers from toddswift when you get hungry at lunchee time. |
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toddswift

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: Re: The END. |
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| doggyji wrote: |
| toddswift wrote: |
| I am sure China is gonna want to take this place over, and they are already claiming parts of North Korea. |
Since when? |
Just last month a group of Korean women silver medalists held up a sign telling China that a certain group of mountains belongs to Korea, China was claiming them as their own, read this as well...........
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/HI16Dg01.html
Kando is a large part of what is now known as Yanbian Korean autonomous prefecture, near the point where the borders of Russia, China and North Korea meet. This area has a large population of ethnic Koreans, who overwhelmingly are Chinese citizens and descendants of the settlers who moved to the area in relatively recent times, after the 1880s. In the early 1900s, the somewhat uncertain legal standing of Kando made it into the object of a low-profile territorial dispute between China and Korea (though in those days, both governments had more urgent things to worry about than the fate of a small piece of real estate somewhere in the distant corners of their domains). In 1909, the Japanese, acting "on behalf" of the Koreans, agreed to complete Chinese sovereignty over the area.
In recent years it became clear that a large number of Koreans were demanding the revision of the 1909 treaty. Unlike the claims about Korean sovereignty over all of Manchuria, these Kando claims have some official backing. In late 2004, when the first round of the "history war" reached its height, a group of 59 South Korean lawmakers even introduced a bill that declared the 1909 Sino-Japanese treaty "null and void" and demanded recognition of Korean territorial rights over Kando. In all probability this was done to counter the Chinese claims over Korguryo, but true to the normal logic of an "argument" between the nationalists, the Chinese might be inclined to answer this bold (and quasi-official) statement with even an bolder one. |
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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: Re: The END. |
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| toddswift wrote: |
So what is going to happen here, I mean in the next 20 years?
I am sure China is gonna want to take this place over, and they are already claiming parts of NOrth Korea, and Japan is already so far ahead of Korea with Technology, Korea already knows they are caught in the middle of emerging China and the tech gap with Japan is getting wider and wider...........
To me it looks pretty hopeless. I think this is the golden age of Korea. As China grows, it will have no place to go, except down. I think the people know it too. The seem to be in a sweat to learn English and Chinese, they are trying to stay competitive, but in the end I think they will be swallowed up, and as China outsells them on everything (cars, chips, ships, appliances, etc...) Korea will hit rock bottom and go through another crisis. I would not be surprised if in 50 years this place is like Thailand, with the bar girls being the main attraction to get some money from the outside. |
...mmm, no. I think that unless China goes on a some sort of warpath, then swallowing up any more landmass than they have would be less advantageous then more. They seemed to have learned from Russia very well.
I think Korea will be a pretty scrappy place, and once they're finally truly caught up in english speaking, they'll be fairly well off. In a *way*, this could very well be a golden age, but hey, America's golden age ended, maybe in the 70's or 80's and we've coasted off of that for like 30 years now. |
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toddswift

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| forever_young wrote: |
| toddswift wrote: |
| forever_young wrote: |
| this guy's doing some serious talking out of his arsehole... |
Sorry to put down your country, but thats the future I see. But you might be in luck, you could open up a dry cleaning service, and tell jokes to the westerners. |
why dry cleaning? |
sorry, I meant laundry. |
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost
Joined: 28 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: |
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Nations are irrelevant.
Multi-nationals rule economics. Economics rule politics. Politics rule reality. Submit and be assimilated.
Absurdity is the only alternative. |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:39 am Post subject: |
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I agree with the OP, I see China dominating (kicken some asses) Korea in next 50-100 years and Korea falling back to third world country status.
Korea just don't have the natural and human resources to even compete with China. And Chinese language will become the most important language next to their own. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005 Location: Eungam Loop
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:47 am Post subject: |
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Korea is definitley at a crossroads. They must change into a service based economy because the things they do well now: ships, chips, and cars will be done just as well and more cheaply by China in the near future.
If Korea can get its act together, they are uniquely positioned and can grow very rich as the insurers, bankers, marketers, and lawyers to the Chinese behemoth. |
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