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Quebec politician calls Asian 'slant eyes,' shuns apology
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Quebec politician calls Asian 'slant eyes,' shuns apology Reply with quote

MONTREAL (CP) - An unrepentant Andre Boisclair refused to apologize Thursday for using the term "slanting eyes" to describe Asian students.

The controversial description once again put Quebec's sometimes tenuous race relations at the fore of the provincial election campaign. The Centre for Research-Action on Race Relations called on Boisclair to apologize but the Parti Quebecois leader steadfastly rebuffed the request.

"I don't have any intention of apologizing," he repeated several times, saying it's a term he uses quite frequently.

According to a former Bloc Quebecois candidate who is now a member of the PQ, Boisclair's comments have caused rumblings within the party.

"It has caused problems for the PQ's candidates of Chinese origin because they have to defend Mr. Boisclair's comments in front of a community who is very angry at these comments," said May Chiu, who ran unsuccessfully for the Bloc during the last federal election. "He really complicated their lives."

Boisclair used the words on Wednesday as he talked about global competition from Asian economies like India and China and the number of young people who leave these countries to pursue studies in the United States.

"The reality is these countries are not just working to create jobs in sweatshops," said Boisclair, who spent a year studying at Harvard University.

"When I was in Boston. . I was surprised to see that on campus about one-third of the students doing their bachelor's degrees had slanting eyes."

Fo Niemi of the Centre for Research-Action on Race Relations called the remark offensive.

"It's a racist stereotype," said Niemi, who is of Asian heritage.

Chiu said the slip was out of character for a politician who normally is extremely sensitive to minorities.

"I just cannot explain how Mr. Boisclair could not have known that 'slanted eyes' has been used as a derogatory insult towards Asians since as long as I know," she said.

Walter Tom, a member of the Chinese-Canadian National Council and a resident of Montreal, called it "one of the highest insults you can hear."

Rather than seek an apology, the council asked Boisclair to "correct" himself.

"It is rather disappointing to hear Mr. Boisclair, and an aspiring premier at that, refer to students of Asian heritage in this manner," said president Colleen Hua.

But Boisclair was adamant.

"I have no intention of apologizing," he reiterated when asked about his choice of words.

Boisclair made the "slanting eyes" comment in French, using the term "yeux brides."

"I don't understand," he said in Quebec City on Thursday. "Maybe there's a nuance between the word in French and the word in English."

French-language media tended to ignore the original remarks on Wednesday, while their English counterparts did mention it.

Boisclair accused Niemi of waging a political fight against him.

The PQ leader said he has travelled to Japan, which he described as "a source of wonder to me."

Quebec has been embroiled in debate over reasonable accommodation of racial, cultural and religious minorities.

It's not the first time race issues have come up in the campaign for the March 26 provincial election.

The Action democratique du Quebec ditched a candidate for saying Quebecers should have more children to avoid being overrun by "ethnics," while the PQ defended a candidate who came under fire for a book that questioned the extent of the 1994 Rwandan genocide.

Niemi and Tom said they did not believe Boisclair meant to be insulting.

The former PQ cabinet minister has worked with the Chinese community many times over the years, Tom said.

"We don't question his goodwill or tolerance," he said. "The only thing is these are the kind of slips of the tongue that need to be eliminated."

Even Boisclair's chief political foes defended him.

ADQ Leader Mario Dumont joked about the comments.

"I'm told all the time I have slanting eyes," he said, laughing, before adding he does not believe Boisclair meant any disrespect to Asians.

Liberal Leader Jean Charest also came to the defence of his PQ opponent.

"Believe me, I find plenty of fault politically with Mr. Boisclair and I'm not shy about saying that," Charest said in Montreal.

But "I think I know Mr. Boisclair enough to know Mr. Boisclair did not use that term in a pejorative way."

Charest ran into problems of his own Thursday when he was confronted at a factory by an angry taxpayer.

Richard Levesque told Charest the Liberals have failed to deliver on a promise to cut income taxes by a billion dollars a year and have instead hiked fees and other taxes.

Charest said his Liberals have lowered income taxes in the past four years and would continue to do so in another mandate.

The outspoken Levesque was not convinced.

"Just like you said in your last mandate, that you'd lower taxes," he said at the factory in Varennes, Que., east of Montreal.

"I lost a hell of a lot of disposable income since you said that. It'd be better if you said nothing. It costs me too much money when you talk."

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/...3756490-cp.html
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good.

Don't cave like Ted Turner.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good. I hope those racist separatists get their butts kicked in the election.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somewhat typical of Quebec politics. Blame election losses on non-whites. Blame problems on "pure" french not having enough babies. It will be one step down from Nazi Germany should they ever become their own nation.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why is it 'racist' to point out someone's obvious facial features?

BFD. i see another attribute besides - - eyes is very thin skin.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to be very worried about the possibility of the PQ ripping my country apart for no greater reason than lust for power. Luckily the major players in the "seperatist (bowel) movement" can't resist showing their true, pathetic colours again and again.

Thank good for the new immigrants to Quebec whom lend that province a much needed sense of sophisticated analysis and grounded perspective to the issue of Quebec's place in Canada. Vive le non-francophone! Merci.

And besides, if Quebec does seperate, where on earth will the rest of Canada get its strippers?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought racism only existed in the southern United States... Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

""When I was in Boston. . I was surprised to see that on campus about one-third of the students doing their bachelor's degrees had slanting eyes." "

Are they more offended at the 'slanting eyes' comment or the suggestion that Asians are class obsessed? In any case, the statement about the eyes is offensive in French. He knew exactly what he was saying.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Such comments in French are not seen as offensive by them as they would be to anglophones in English.

That being said, French people are very racist. And, for the most part, they hate English people. I could go as far to say that they hate each other, too.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Such comments in French are not seen as offensive by them as they would be to anglophones in English.

That being said, French people are very racist. And, for the most part, they hate English people. I could go as far to say that they hate each other, too.


Nah, it is offensive. Those who don't realize it is are racist or ignorant.

Oh, and your comments about the French hating the English... you might want to stop for one minute and think about what that means about your own attitudes.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywoodaction wrote:
yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Such comments in French are not seen as offensive by them as they would be to anglophones in English.

That being said, French people are very racist. And, for the most part, they hate English people. I could go as far to say that they hate each other, too.


Nah, it is offensive. Those who don't realize it is are racist or ignorant.

Oh, and your comments about the French hating the English... you might want to stop for one minute and think about what that means about your own attitudes.


Ho hum. I lived in Quebec.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Quebec politician calls Asian 'slant eyes,' shuns apolog Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
MONTREAL (CP) - An unrepentant Andre Boisclair refused to apologize Thursday

Good.

The tokyo governor never apologizes for what he says about foreigners. The Family Mart and Yahoo! Japan never apologized for selling the Foreigner Crime Files magazine, the Korean publisher never apologized for his anti-Semetic comic, etc etc.

Can't have it both ways. If you want others to apologize for what they say, you have to apologize for what you say. I hope Boisclair sticks to his guns for that reason alone. (He's PQ, so more than likely will anyway)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChimpumCallao wrote:
why is it 'racist' to point out someone's obvious facial features?

BFD. i see another attribute besides - - eyes is very thin skin.

"When I was in Hongdae ... I was surprised to see that about one-third of the people had big noses/smelled like rotting dairy products."
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I know (being an ex-Montrealer) "des yeux brides" is not derogatory in French. I would sometimes get that comment from time to time (probably due to some Dutch ancestors mucking about in Indonesia) and it was meant as a compliment.

The context in which Monsieur Bosclair used it however, he probably could have chosen a better way to express it so as not to flip everyone out, ie: the English media.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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