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Teaching Phonics - Pros and Cons

 
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Teaching Phonics - Pros and Cons Reply with quote

I've just purchased a phonics flashcard set. There are 86 cards in the set and they are labelled as being suitable for children of 6 years old and up.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of teaching children phonics? What is the ideal age or level to teach them phonics?

I thought that teaching phonics would be one of our primary functions as a native speaker, given that it is focused on pronunciation.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best age to teach phonics is anytime before age 16, though even after that it can be useful - if students know how certain sounds are made it will improve their listening.

Reasons to teach it?

- The KTs can't.
- It's easy.
- There are so many ways you can teach it that it's good for variety.
- You can also teach vocab and listening skills at the same time.
- It's easy to integrate into the rest of the lesson.
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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is it that children that have never been formally taught phonics know how to read and the older students usually guess the pronunciation of a word correctly without having any formal method to apply to a word?

How is it that a native speaker knows the difference between a 'long a' and a 'short a' without knowing the rules? Memorization?
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spyro25



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How is it that a native speaker knows the difference between a 'long a' and a 'short a' without knowing the rules?


its 'internal knowledge' in the same way that you know how to use a knife and fork. your job is to make that knowledge 'external knowledge' (identify rules and patterns) to the students who will then in turn 'internalise' it after repeated practice and be able to use it in the same, hidden way in which we do now. teaching phonics is vital to beginners as well as people who have trouble spelling or reading aloud. you should be teaching this before most other aspects of english (vocab, grammar, sentence structure) as it will greatly speed up the learning process if the phonics is learnt and internalised.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tfunk wrote:
How is it that children that have never been formally taught phonics know how to read and the older students usually guess the pronunciation of a word correctly without having any formal method to apply to a word?

How is it that a native speaker knows the difference between a 'long a' and a 'short a' without knowing the rules? Memorization?


Actually almost know one knows the correct pronunciatiion of every English word. We learn by recognising patterns and similarities, listening to others, and using guides. For instance, you know that 'mat' is different from 'mate' by using them numerous times, but Korean students would do well to learn that vowel-consonent-vowel usually results in a long vowel sound.

Koreans also need to learn how to articulate their lips and tongues correctly to pronounce letters that make unfamiliar sounds to them, such as f / v / r / l / z / etc.
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meangradin



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that it is a good thing to teach phonics from as young an age as possible. Every kindie class I teach we spend at least a few minutes on the liquid sounds(R/L) and other sounds Koreans easily confuse.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree students need to learn to read at an earlier age. Korean English education has a failing mark in this (I am talking about public schooling). But that does not always mean teaching "phonetics".

there is a big misconception that phonetics is teaching reading. It is only one way to teach reading and works with students behind in the normal learning curve and for other types of individuated learners.

Like so much in English which is an art, there are many ways to draw or kill a cat. I don't believe we should compartmentalize English and teach "phonics" seperately from whole language. Only if as stated above. Really what you want to do is complement your teaching with lots and lots of script. Kids learn through exposure and in the EFL context, they don't learn to read early because of the failure to encounter script with speech enough. If you can create that rich environment, you don't need to formally go through the teaching of "phonics". But I do think at times it is good to isolate parts of difficult speech and allow practice and differentiation activities.

But I think teachers would be best to try and compliment lessons with a richness of script and allow the discovery of the sound script connection. next best is the remedial phonetics approach.

DD
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