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Well that's one way to spend a Fulbright.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject: Well that's one way to spend a Fulbright. Reply with quote

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/articles/2007/04/12/news/news9.txt

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NORTON - College students often speak of a desire to travel, meet new people and learn different cultures. But few have traveled to places as diverse and disparate as Australia and the Dominican Republic, met local children with special needs and foreign children without parents, or learned language and culture abroad while also teaching it to others.

It is that broad palette of experience and accomplishment which earned Wheaton College senior Laura Tschop a prestigious Fulbright scholarship last month.

Starting in July, she will teach English in South Korean elementary schools and study that country's educational system for one year, thanks to the scholarship's stipend.

"I was excited when I found out I got it, of course," Tschop said of the letter she anxiously opened at the post office.

Equally excited was Tschop's family - and understandably so. Tschop's mother and maternal grandmother were both teachers, an influence the Wheaton senior credits in sparking her own interest in teaching.



And in related news, Nancy the part-time Tim Horton's server from Corner Brook who recently graduated with a 2.1 GPA from the University of Newfoundland just landed a job where she will teach English in South Korean elementary schools. Only she's going to get paid $2,200Cdn after taxes / month instead of spending a highly competative fellowship to do so.
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Junior



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems a ridiculous waste of a supposedly illustrious scholarship..

If they want a report on the Korean education system all they had to do was send a questionairre to the 1000's of foreign teachers that have already been working in Korean schools for the past few years already.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
It seems a ridiculous waste of a supposedly illustrious scholarship..

If they want a report on the Korean education system all they had to do was send a questionairre to the 1000's of foreign teachers that have already been working in Korean schools for the past few years already.


Reading the home-town article made me think of the penultimate scam: my school district pays me 2m / month to get them Fulbright scholars to teach in our schools. Then they can go home and write MA theses on things they could have learned just by reading Dave's.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before I came here, I talked to a woman who had taught in Korea under a Fulbright. It's actually a bigger program than you'd imagine. I believe it falls under the heading of "international aid" in the federal budget. Kind of like the Peace Corps is counted as part of the overall aid package.
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
It seems a ridiculous waste of a supposedly illustrious scholarship..

If they want a report on the Korean education system all they had to do was send a questionairre to the 1000's of foreign teachers that have already been working in Korean schools for the past few years already.


How many of them are qualified teachers and have an educator's POV? Studying this country's educational system is as valid a field of study as any I have heard of.
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kimchi story



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn ybs, that's funny. Not the story itself, whatever, i'm sure she'll add something interesting to the canon of pedagogy, but man, the delivery.

I laughed out loud, you have a knack for polishing the absurd and driving it home.
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Junior



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="jaganath69"]
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How many of them are qualified teachers and have an educator's POV?


i'm sure they'd still be regarded as losers who couldn't get a job at home anyhow.


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Studying this country's educational system is as valid a field of study as any I have heard of.


What do they do with her report anyhow I wonder?



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To help prepare for her trip, Tschop will learn of another kind of embrace - familiarizing herself with some basics of Korean language and culture.

"It will be just as important for me to understand them as it will be for them to understand me," she said.


Laughing True, true...*sigh*
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kimchi story



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:

i'm sure they'd still be regarded as losers who couldn't get a job at home anyhow.


Wait, that's funny. Isn't it the people who are teaching with unrelated degrees, who will have no use for their experiences here on their professional resumes, who are...ah, forgettaboutit.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to be a Fulbright soooooo bad.

Once she graduates and finished the Fulbright program, she will be making over $100,000 a year.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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who recently graduated with a 2.1 GPA


2.1 out of 4?
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faster



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are 2 kinds of Fulbrights in Korea. The teaching one is pretty easy to come by, and provides homestay, language study, and pay. The research one is more prestigious, and, as one would expect, provides a research stipend and research assistance.
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OiGirl



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

faster wrote:
There are 2 kinds of Fulbrights in Korea. The teaching one is pretty easy to come by, and provides homestay, language study, and pay. The research one is more prestigious, and, as one would expect, provides a research stipend and research assistance.

Thank you! I was just looking up that information.
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:

i'm sure they'd still be regarded as losers who couldn't get a job at home anyhow.


None of my university educated friends are unemployed back home. Don't know what it is like in other countries.


Junior wrote:

What do they do with her report anyhow I wonder?


These things always come in handy for cross-cultural analysis. It's the whole point of the academy, to deepen and explore knowledge.
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
Junior wrote:
It seems a ridiculous waste of a supposedly illustrious scholarship..

If they want a report on the Korean education system all they had to do was send a questionairre to the 1000's of foreign teachers that have already been working in Korean schools for the past few years already.


How many of them are qualified teachers and have an educator's POV? Studying this country's educational system is as valid a field of study as any I have heard of.


What I'd love to know is how a 22-year-old American girl is going to go about gathering any useful information from which to conduct research. It will take her six months just to figure out what level the students are at. Test scores, methods of evaluation, listening test materials? Why would the waygook want or need to know anything about that? 'Oh our student Englishie bery small' ... now go sing and dance.

Then, if and when she gets anything, how is it going to be remotely considered in either the Korean or American system? Perhaps if she posts it on Dave's three or four waygook elementary school teachers might take note of some things. Nancy from Corner Brook could do about as much.
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jeffusensei



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I have to admit I also giggled at the thought of a fullbright teaching at some hagwon, some rigorous analysis of Korea's ailing and ineffective ESL industry is long overdue. Dave's, though cathartic, is just a touch unscientific.

She'd do better however spedning her time actually doing research: interviewing teachers, recruiters, students and regular folks in the Korean population etc. There are some serious questions to be answered, like why is so much money being spent but so little actual education happening? What is the social impact of an over-priced, private sector ESL market with respect to an ever-widening wealth gap? And why are there so many Canadians here?
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