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HAITAITIGERZ
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:26 am Post subject: Starting up my own hagwon. |
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My aunt is thinking about starting up a hagwon, her only experience is me being able to teach at her hagwon and managing everything. Other than that, she has no experience in the business. She is a fair minded, calm woman. By the way, I am a gyopo with an f-4 visa, so I CAN DO WUTEVER I WANT. She is looking for new locations around the Gwangju city area. The hagwon is around 47 pyong in a newly constructed builing. She is going to pay 50,000,000 won down payment and an additonal 1,100,00 won a month as rent, if we choose that location . But that is all relative depending on where you live. Seoul will obviously cost a lot more and the location is another variable factor. Forget all that. My question is: in a new building, completely empty (no walls,desks, doors, etc) how much will you need to start everything up, minus rent and key money (considering that is relative) . .
wut to consider when thinking of an estimate:
- interior design (walls, paint, electrical wiring, lights, doors, a/c, heater)
- copier, printer, computer
- big sign on the outside
- materials (books)
- desks, chairs, whiteboard
- advertising
- renting bus/car to p/u students
Am i missing anything else?
I think aside from key money and rent, one would need atleast an additional 45,000,000 won. Remember that money is a factor and trying to spend reasonable amount of money without being too lavish!
A lot of directors who have no skills in english, no common sense, and lacking business sense can manage to make a comfortable living running a hagwon, I figure, I can do better ... So wut do you think? |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, you forgot how to spell "what". |
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HAITAITIGERZ
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:46 am Post subject: |
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I didn't forget how to spell "what". By the way, since we are being so picky about grammar - it's "what." Period first than double quote. You're correcting someone but making a mistake yourself. How embarrassing!!!
By the way, wut part of "I can do wutever I want," didn't you understand?????????????????????????????????????????? I can even spell "what" as "wut" cause i got an F4 visa. How you like them apples??? |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: |
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| HAITAITIGERZ wrote: |
I didn't forget how to spell "what". By the way, since we are being so picky about grammar - it's "what." Period first than double quote. You're correcting someone but making a mistake yourself. How embarrassing!!!
By the way, wut part of "I can do wutever I want," didn't you understand?????????????????????????????????????????? I can even spell "what" as "wut" cause i got an F4 visa. How you like them apples??? |
Grow up, kiddo. |
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seoulunitarian

Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: re: |
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| HAITAITIGERZ wrote: |
I didn't forget how to spell "what". By the way, since we are being so picky about grammar - it's "what." Period first than double quote. You're correcting someone but making a mistake yourself. How embarrassing!!!
By the way, wut part of "I can do wutever I want," didn't you understand?????????????????????????????????????????? I can even spell "what" as "wut" cause i got an F4 visa. How you like them apples??? |
God, I hope your aunt has a better attitude than you. All we need is another bitchy hagwon director.
Peace |
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HAITAITIGERZ
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:56 am Post subject: |
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| I think I would be a pretty cool director as far as directing goes considering wut an unreasonable as s they can be. But in this case, Im not the one starting crap, making stupid corrections, on my serious questions. Am i asking for a spelling check? |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:57 am Post subject: Re: re: |
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| seoulunitarian wrote: |
| HAITAITIGERZ wrote: |
I didn't forget how to spell "what". By the way, since we are being so picky about grammar - it's "what." Period first than double quote. You're correcting someone but making a mistake yourself. How embarrassing!!!
By the way, wut part of "I can do wutever I want," didn't you understand?????????????????????????????????????????? I can even spell "what" as "wut" cause i got an F4 visa. How you like them apples??? |
God, I hope your aunt has a better attitude than you. All we need is another *beep* hagwon director.
Peace |
Thanks for the support. It's interesting how much we can read about a person's personality from a single post. |
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heeckan
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Don't forget; on opening day, you have to hire two HOT, scantily clad Korean chicks to dance (to obnoxiously loud music, while speaking through a blurry mic) on the sidewalk. Always makes my day.
Oh, and you can't go wrong with a few of those Gumby-looking figures, with fans underneath that cause them to flap about.
But seriously, you've got to take staff into consideration. I honestly think that a lot of hagwon owners have this perception that students will instantly flock in and the staff salaries will be covered. Things may be very slow from the get-go; you should have enough money to cover staff salaries for, at least, the first few months. If you plan on having foreign teachers, this will be a BIG expense... plan accordingly.
Oh, and chill out a bit. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| HAITAITIGERZ wrote: |
| I didn't forget how to spell "what". By the way, since we are being so picky about grammar - it's "what." Period first than double quote. You're correcting someone but making a mistake yourself. How embarrassing!!! |
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/quotation.htm
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| In the United Kingdom, Canada, and islands under the influence of British education, punctuation around quotation marks is more apt to follow logic. In American style, then, you would write: My favorite poem is Robert Frost's "Design." But in England you would write: My favorite poem is Robert Frost's "Design". The placement of marks other than periods and commas follows the logic that quotation marks should accompany (be right next to) the text being quoted or set apart as a title. |
Based upon the Everton avatar, I'm guessing that butlerian is British. Even if he isn't, I'm American and prefer to use the British style. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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OP.....you want advice/feedback about opening a hakwon but your post is written like some teen kid.
You want people to take you seriously, present yourself accordingly.
As for your response to the correction, it did not help you at all. |
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HAITAITIGERZ
Joined: 17 Jan 2007
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:19 am Post subject: |
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oh man ... in the beginning, the staff's salary would be the cheapest expense, i would imagine that wouldn't be the problem ... the way i see it, the directors' who don't pay the teachers on time have an issue, either with the teacher on hand or himself ... you gotta pay the employees on time !!!
Homer: how is my post written like some teen kid? A teenager would ask a question like the one I did in the beginning? explain to me wut in my first message gives you that idea?
I don't care if my response to the correction was any help to me at all! what kinda as s do you have to be to correct someone's spelling in this forum ... seriously  |
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seoulunitarian

Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: re: |
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| HAITAITIGERZ wrote: |
oh man ... in the beginning, the staff's salary would be the cheapest expense, i would imagine that wouldn't be the problem ... the way i see it, the directors' who don't pay the teachers on time have an issue, either with the teacher on hand or himself ... you gotta pay the employees on time !!!
Homer: how is my post written like some teen kid? A teenager would ask a question like the one I did in the beginning? explain to me wut in my first message gives you that idea?
I don't care if my response to the correction was any help to me at all! what kinda as s do you have to be to correct someone's spelling in this forum ... seriously  |
To answer your question: "wut." There may be a market in Korea for ebonics education, though.
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:41 am Post subject: |
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Wut is chat lingo. You want to be taken seriously and receive advice present yourself like a professional.
Use proper English for starters.
Or do it your own way....
Nuttin wrong with u doing dat. I mean it will be gr8 for u 2 open yur school with yur aunt. Wut could go wrong with dat? |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| HAITAITIGERZ wrote: |
| I didn't forget how to spell "what". By the way, since we are being so picky about grammar - it's "what." Period first than double quote. You're correcting someone but making a mistake yourself. How embarrassing!!! |
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/quotation.htm
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| In the United Kingdom, Canada, and islands under the influence of British education, punctuation around quotation marks is more apt to follow logic. In American style, then, you would write: My favorite poem is Robert Frost's "Design." But in England you would write: My favorite poem is Robert Frost's "Design". The placement of marks other than periods and commas follows the logic that quotation marks should accompany (be right next to) the text being quoted or set apart as a title. |
Based upon the Everton avatar, I'm guessing that butlerian is British. Even if he isn't, I'm American and prefer to use the British style. |
Thanks for that. I'm English, and I use British style. I don't care how much Americans try to alter British English - British English is the original. |
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seoulunitarian

Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: re: |
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| butlerian wrote: |
| huffdaddy wrote: |
| HAITAITIGERZ wrote: |
| I didn't forget how to spell "what". By the way, since we are being so picky about grammar - it's "what." Period first than double quote. You're correcting someone but making a mistake yourself. How embarrassing!!! |
http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/quotation.htm
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| In the United Kingdom, Canada, and islands under the influence of British education, punctuation around quotation marks is more apt to follow logic. In American style, then, you would write: My favorite poem is Robert Frost's "Design." But in England you would write: My favorite poem is Robert Frost's "Design". The placement of marks other than periods and commas follows the logic that quotation marks should accompany (be right next to) the text being quoted or set apart as a title. |
Based upon the Everton avatar, I'm guessing that butlerian is British. Even if he isn't, I'm American and prefer to use the British style. |
Thanks for that. I'm English, and I use British style. I don't care how much Americans try to alter British English - British English is the original. |
I'm also American, and I give British English a hearty "here-here."
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