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Smoke pot? Blog about it and risk jail

 
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Smoke pot? Blog about it and risk jail Reply with quote

Good thing the Korean police don't have much to do:

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2873652


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Smoking marijuana may be legal in the Netherlands, but not if you�re Korean.
Seoul police are investigating a 38-year-old man who smoked some pot in Amsterdam on a business trip and then wrote about the high on his personal blog.
The bragging doper could be liable for jail time under Korean drug laws, police say.
South Korean criminal laws adopt both personal and territorial principles, meaning that a South Korean national who violates South Korean laws in another country can be punished back home, even if what he did was legal where he did it.
According to police, the man was in the Netherlands with two coworkers in January when a tour guide told them marijuana use is not a crime there. The three travelers entered a �coffee shop� where the drug is openly sold, paid 45 euros ($59) and lit up.
After coming home, the suspect was moved to write about it on his blog. �I smoked marijuana with two coworkers and I felt the wall was spinning and I lost strength in my legs,� he wrote. He also explained how to buy pot at a coffee shop.
But the posting was tracked down by alert police investigating Internet drug trading and now the trippy traveler is in serious hot water. He could be liable for five years in prison or a 50 million won ($53,000) fine. Next time, stick to coffee, man.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Numerous countries(including some western democracies) have laws on their books making it a punishable offense to patronize underage prostitutes in foreign countries. In my experience, not too many westerners are all that fired up about defending the rights of the johns who get prosecuted under these extra-territorial laws. Objections to these laws are likely to be met with the reply that child prostitution is "different", and cannot be treated like other crimes.

Anyway, it looks like other countries have their own ideas about what constitutes a "different" crime.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Seoul police are investigating a 38-year-old man who smoked some pot in Amsterdam on a business trip and then wrote about the high on his personal blog..."I smoked marijuana with two coworkers and I felt the wall was spinning and I lost strength in my legs," he wrote. He also explained how to buy pot at a coffee shop...


Octavius: this man is simply a moron.

Another difference in worldview -- or "optics" as you have grown fond of saying recently. You are outraged that South Korean authorities will prosecute this man for exercising his God-given right to get high. I, on the other hand, am outraged that this idiot committed a crime and then, by his own volition, posted an on-line admission.

Not unlike the video I saw not so long ago of a small-time drug-processing op ("crack," I believe): they filmed themselves partying while processing their drugs. When the police eventually raided them, they also seized the tape. Kind of hard to deny what a video shows...


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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
I, on the other hand, am outraged that this idiot committed a crime and then, by his own volition, posted an on-line admission.

Hold on. Where's the evidence that the man committed a crime?

Oh ok, yeah he did, just not under Netherlands law.


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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree gopher, the guy is a total *beep*. That said most drug laws are stupid and I only hope this helps change Koreans minds on drugs (yes I am rolling my eyes and laughing as I write that last part).
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ED209



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever happened to Almond Tease?
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
Whatever happened to Almond Tease?

I don't know, but I'm outraged that she committed so many crimes.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Octavius Hite wrote:
...most drug laws are stupid and I only hope this helps change Koreans' minds on drugs (yes I am rolling my eyes and laughing as I write that last part).


I would legalize marijuana tomorrow, Octavius. We have all already exchanged views on "hard" drugs -- yours, mine, and Kuros's I particularly recall. No point in rehashing that.

My point is this: bad law or not, as long as it is on the books and authorities are clearly enforcing it, even, bizarre as it sounds, transnationally..."low-profile" should be the order of the day. Do not document your doings on your internet blog.

"Question authority. But silently. And to yourself. Until you have some of your own to throw around." A friend who is rolling her eyes as I write this once told me that. All of you who want to rewrite the drug laws have failed to position yourselves to do much about it but complain...


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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:
Gopher wrote:
I, on the other hand, am outraged that this idiot committed a crime and then, by his own volition, posted an on-line admission.

Hold on. Where's the evidence that the man committed a crime?

Oh ok, yeah he did, just not under Netherlands law.


My understanding is that marijuana remains illegal in the Netherlands, but that the law goes generally unenforced.
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Hanson



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
Whatever happened to Almond Tease?


Ok, not exactly the most reliable source, here, but a friend of a friend apparently saw her at a bar in Itaewon. They talked for a little and she apparently told him that the case against her had been dropped, and that she didn't have to do any time, or pay any fine.

(where's the shrug emoticon)
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanson wrote:
ED209 wrote:
Whatever happened to Almond Tease?


Ok, not exactly the most reliable source, here, but a friend of a friend apparently saw her at a bar in Itaewon. They talked for a little and she apparently told him that the case against her had been dropped, and that she didn't have to do any time, or pay any fine.

(where's the shrug emoticon)


"Excuse me, but aren't you that girl who got busted for doing porn?"

You have to make sure you have the right one before you ask. I take it your friend was a fan. Laughing
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Hanson



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hollywoodaction wrote:
Hanson wrote:
ED209 wrote:
Whatever happened to Almond Tease?


Ok, not exactly the most reliable source, here, but a friend of a friend apparently saw her at a bar in Itaewon. They talked for a little and she apparently told him that the case against her had been dropped, and that she didn't have to do any time, or pay any fine.

(where's the shrug emoticon)


"Excuse me, but aren't you that girl who got busted for doing porn?"

You have to make sure you have the right one before you ask. I take it your friend was a fan. Laughing


Who isn't? Laughing
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to see how they are going to prove this charge. What go to Amsterdam and get the person who sold him it to come to Korea and testify? Yeah right. You really think his co-workers who saw it will testify

How they prove his blog is fact? He could say he was posting fiction

dont the cops have better things to do?
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well depending how long ago his trip was they could just give him the p1ss test. Many a foriegner has succumbed to such a fate, no its a Korean's turn.
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