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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Hagwon's expectations for finding a new teacher... Reply with quote

Hi.

I'm finishing my first Korean TESOL contract in May and heading home, but my director is at a loss as to how to find a replacement for me. He wants me to help find a replacement (which is no problem), but also seems to expect me to find one for him.

He literally has no idea how to find a foreign teacher. I've done a few English web searches for recruitment firms for him, but he hasn't been too keen on them because he can't read English to any functional internet-level. So, I've advised that he does a few searches in Korean, but he says

"I have done, there are no Korean sites."

Shocked Shocked

I'm a bit taken aback by this. My hagwon hired me through an old highschool friend of mine who worked there the year before me. To get him they used some New Zealand recruitment agency (but my boss says that he lost the homesite of this firm, dear oh dear Confused ).

I want to help them, they're a TINY operation (60 students total), and if they don't find a new teacher they are guaranteed to go under. Also, I'd like to have such matters settled before I leave so as to reduce the chances of being stiffed on severance. Still, it rather baffles me that they have no idea how to go about this and expect me to do it for them (for free no less!)

Anyone got similar stories? Is this a common scenario?
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lowpo



Joined: 01 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Hagwon's expectations for finding a new teacher... Reply with quote

The Hierophant wrote:
Hi.

I'm finishing my first Korean TESOL contract in May and heading home, but my director is at a loss as to how to find a replacement for me. He wants me to help find a replacement (which is no problem), but also seems to expect me to find one for him.

He literally has no idea how to find a foreign teacher. I've done a few English web searches for recruitment firms for him, but he hasn't been too keen on them because he can't read English to any functional internet-level. So, I've advised that he does a few searches in Korean, but he says

"I have done, there are no Korean sites."

Shocked Shocked

I'm a bit taken aback by this. My hagwon hired me through an old highschool friend of mine who worked there the year before me. To get him they used some New Zealand recruitment agency (but my boss says that he lost the homesite of this firm, dear oh dear Confused ).

I want to help them, they're a TINY operation (60 students total), and if they don't find a new teacher they are guaranteed to go under. Also, I'd like to have such matters settled before I leave so as to reduce the chances of being stiffed on severance. Still, it rather baffles me that they have no idea how to go about this and expect me to do it for them (for free no less!)

Anyone got similar stories? Is this a common scenario?


Go to kimnjoe thread.
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Hagwon's expectations for finding a new teacher... Reply with quote

lowpo wrote:


Go to kimnjoe thread.


Cheers, we'll give them a try.
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sure there are many sites out there.
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jazblanc77



Joined: 22 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go on the job boards, find the positions that are being offered up by recruiters and then give him their phone numbers from the ads so that he can contact them and let a bilingual Korean recruiter do the work for him.
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andrew



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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lowpo



Joined: 01 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrew wrote:
But if the school only has about 60 students, would the director be able to pay the recruiter's fee? Those can be pretty steep, and then the OP may have trouble getting his severance if there isn't enough money to pay both that and the recruiting fee. This could be a problem.


If the owner does not want to pay for a recruiter. I used http://www.eslteachersboard.com/ to hire teachers in China. It is free to post jobs.
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Cynical Optimist



Joined: 26 Feb 2006
Location: S.E. Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lowpo wrote:
If the owner does not want to pay for a recruiter. I used http://www.eslteachersboard.com/ to hire teachers in China. It is free to post jobs.


That looks like a good site, thanks for the link. I'm trying to help my boss find someone, too.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see how you can recommend this school if you, yourself are being afraid of being "stiffed" on your severance pay... Shocked
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A school that can't possibly figure out how to hire a teacher? Rolling Eyes



I want to open a restaurant. Thing is, I can't cook, and I have no idea how I could possible find someone who knows how to cook.
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
I don't see how you can recommend this school if you, yourself are being afraid of being "stiffed" on your severance pay... Shocked

The school itself is OK to work for, and I like my boss. He's just broke is all...
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hierophant wrote:
spliff wrote:
I don't see how you can recommend this school if you, yourself are being afraid of being "stiffed" on your severance pay... Shocked

The school itself is OK to work for, and I like my boss. He's just broke is all...


60 kids and a boss with no money is not a glowing recommendation for a hakwon.

Most of us like to have some assurance that we will be paid everything that is expected and to be paid on time without worrying about "getting stiffed" on our severance and ticket home.

I hope you get paid and I also (without wishing ill will on your nice boss) hope that they do not get another foreign teacher that will have to worry about financial matters.
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Tjames426



Joined: 06 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Tell him to offer a 3 million won salary a month. He will have no problem finding applicants.
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:

60 kids and a boss with no money is not a glowing recommendation for a hakwon.

Most of us like to have some assurance that we will be paid everything that is expected and to be paid on time without worrying about "getting stiffed" on our severance and ticket home.

I hope you get paid and I also (without wishing ill will on your nice boss) hope that they do not get another foreign teacher that will have to worry about financial matters.

I agree with you. It's not a fantastic situation (he farmed me out illegally for the first five months, I refused after learning that the situation was illegal), and I've had constant pay-stress for the ten and a half months I've been here. It's just that he's got a family to feed and I at least want to steer him in the right direction.

The previous teacher (an old friend of mine) got his final pay and severance without any trouble, but at that stage he had already convinced me to sign up (for free). My boss had no hand in hiring me, and hence learned no lessons regarding how to find and hire foreign teachers.

The vibe I get from him and the other Korean teacher is 'If you don't help us, we're doomed, and it'll be your fault' in a helpless puppy-dog sort of way...

*sigh*
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jmbran11



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know you feel bad, and are worried about getting paid, but this really isn't your job. There should be someone there who can speak English well enough to do recruitment interviews. How can you run an English school if none of the administration speak English?!

Prepare a list of recruitment agencies (do a search, there are many listed on this site). Write the name and phone number and give your boss the list. They should all speak Korean, so he can negotiate with them. Explain to him that you would be happy to speak to potential candidates if they have questions, and that you will put an add on a couple of bulletin boards, but he should contact a professional recruiter. If you want to be really helpful, you can ask him to pay to access the resumes on worknplay or on Dave's, and you will be willing to go through them and make some calls.

If you can't fix it, don't feel guilty. It's not your responsibility. That's part of the job of running a hogwan. As far as I can tell, the ability to find teachers to work for you is basically the only requirement for running a hogwan.
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